Do you believe other players when they bet?

[ObbleeXY]

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Hi 0546474. That's a good point. For me, if a player bets the min from UTG I think they don't have a good hand and wants to see the turn cheap, they have a good hand and hoping for a raise, or they don't know what they are doing. And as anyone knows, those players may go all the way to the river with nothing.

Hi CallmeFloopy. That's good to think about. I think if I do get back to playing, maybe I should believe them more. One thing we all know is the fact that it don't take long to find the weak players at the table. Playing MTTs is harder to spot them because from being moved a lot. That's my 2 cents. Oh and we all know you are a good player. LOL

Hi duck_uggs. Great reply. I posted about doing self talk at the table. And I would bet 100 to 1 that you do a lot of it. I do. And those are a lot to think about.

Re: limping pre-flop from UTG.
I think your conclusion will cover some of the scenarios, but it far from complete.
A min bet states that you are willing to see the flop on the cheap, yes, but it also means that they are currently IN THE POT and will continue to have an option to respond to downstream action. Rather than a weak position, it is a non-committal position, which can be very different.

There is a certain portion of the poker playing population who like to limp low pocket pairs from early position. They are often willing to pay more than 1BB to see a flop, but a 3-Bet on 1BB limp can be more palatable than a 3-Bet to 9BB (had they opened with a bet of 3BB)

Similarly, there is a certain portion of the poker players who like to limp AA and/or KK from UTG. The reasoning being you give the table an opportunity to go wild, whilst retaining the option to shove when the action comes back around to you. The danger here of course is that others with marginal/prospective hands might get pot committed and AA/KK into a multiway pot is feast or famine.

Whether a UTG limp is generally speculative and weak, or small pocket pair, or AA/KK is sufficient a difference in strength that you really need to be able to take player characteristics into account. Making the assumption that it is one or the other without additional intel is dangerous.

Cheers,
ObbleeXY

 

[GoodMoon90]

I love it when my opponent bets, because I often go into distributions exclusively with a strong hand)

 

[terryk]

Always ask yourself,,, "why are they betting that much?" most times a better will tell you if he wants you to continue,,,

 

[Ragonesi]

It depends on their position to the table and late in a tournament the notes I place on the remaining players,

You can read how a poker game goes and see if the opponent bet is just a mid pair, pocket pair, high pair, etc. As well how they bluff is diferrent you just have to get extra attention to how the table is going.

And remember, in poker position is KEY to any bet.

 

[samircyber9]

it really depends on there position and the informations i have on them and how they play , but sometimes your hand can be better

 

[YuriDitz]

I try to go by my maps. And believe or disbelieve a player depending on his handing history

 

[FlushKings311]

Poker

Sometimes I try to gauge what someone may be holding, but the strength of my hand is more important to me that what someone else may be holding.

 

[Claudiunm]

Well, we're talking about a post-flop game.
Come on:

A low pair is still mathematically stronger than any hand that doesn't have a pocket pair. But if you didn't find a hand of 3 on the flop, it's too risky to call villain's bet. However, if no high cards came on the flop, he may just be bluffing to try and grab the pot. If calling isn't going to compromise your pot too much, it's worth the risk as the other '6' could be there on the river waiting to reveal itself to you. It's happened to me. But I flashed and soon after I saw the third card on the river....
Of course, the opposite has also happened and I preserved my stack.

 

[alien666dj]

It is necessary to question not only the actions of opponents, but also your own actions, especially with regard to opponents against whom there is no data.

 

[zipocool]

you need to watch how this player wins back what statistics he has and based on this we make decisions situations are different so we always play based on the actions of the opponent

 

[Kennemelo]

It is necessary to question not only the actions of opponents, but also your own actions, especially with regard to opponents against whom there is no data.

Awesome answer! It is very important to evaluate the opponent's actions not against the whole table, but against you in particular!

 

[Chebchoub]

It all depends on how the opponent reacts, whether it is aggressive or a submarine, and here you must be very careful, in addition to what you have in your hand, your position on the table and what the flop showed, and if you did not touch anything on the flop, try to slow down your reaction to lure him to see the turn and the river.
Good luck

 

[unadonk]

What, not believe a poker player - blasphey!

 

[Akuana]

Usually when I think my opponent has nothing and is bluffing, I lose most of the pot.

 

[Ilgiz]

Not always. During the game, you notice who is bluffing and who is playing good cards.

 

[blueskies]

If it's a multiway pot and one of the first players to act bets, he probably has something. If all you got is 66 and there are three overcards, just fold. If he's weak you can try to float him and see what he does on the turn. If he checks you can try to steal.

But in general, I would fold and wait for a better spot to get my chips in.

 

[Fushicho]

If it's a multiway pot and one of the first players to act bets, he probably has something. If all you got is 66 and there are three overcards, just fold. If he's weak you can try to float him and see what he does on the turn. If he checks you can try to steal.

But in general, I would fold and wait for a better spot to get my chips in.

In a multi-way pot, it's not my job to keep them honest. With 3 overcards someone has a better hand so fold.

Also if the bet gets respect and all fold, maybe I can do it next hand!

 

[offshore11000]

it depends on the context of the bet and the board if the bet is consistent with the range of hands that the opponent may have to get right

 

[001Jaguar]

It’s all about stack if there is a big stack and someone raising low I always call and see the end but if there is a lot of stack and with all in I start thinking even bluffs but usually fold it

 

[TirariAchref]

Sometimes you do from their style of play. You feel when the other player is bluffing or not.

 

[ga25x]

I don't. I only believe my gut.

 

[franken222]

Poker is based on lying. Every time you bet, you are telling your opponent that your hand is better. Usually, it's a lie. You want your opponent to fold, so that you can take the pot.

Every time your opponent bets, it's a lie.

So, that's where note taking comes in. Never believe your opponent.....believe your notes.

If you keep notes, you can, hopefully, avoid a game of chicken. (because that's what it is.)

 

[WHAKAORIORI]

I only take note of me . I try anyway . Unless I’ve been at the same table same players long enough then you can gauge

 

[Stringy]

depends on how they are betting, but normally when I have a good hand and someone is being more aggressive than me then I believe them

 

[budweiser74777]

I only trust my cards