Hi everyone. NLHE 6 Max ZOOM cash game on PokerStars.
Can AQ lose you money by not having the best kicker?
For example the A flops and you don't have K kicker, only Q kicker and opponent has AK.
Or even worse when the Q flops and opponent has KK.
And what do you do with AQ when the flop is KQ2?

You think the opponent always has a better hand than you?
If you think (read) that opponent has AK or KK why do you go into that hand in the first place?

Originally Posted by PokerNuts01

You think the opponent always has a better hand than you?
If you think (read) that opponent has AK or KK why do you go into that hand in the first place?

When do you not go into that hand?

Originally Posted by thomasguy3419

When do you not go into that hand?

If you think that the opponent has AK or KK you just fold AQ, there's no problem

Originally Posted by PokerNuts01

If you think that the opponent has AK or KK you just fold AQ, there's no problem

What are good signs that opponent has AK or KK?

Originally Posted by thomasguy3419

What are good signs that opponent has AK or KK?

thats person to person.... you never really know how someone could play this. I know a bunch of people who limp in with KK and AA usually old men. Personally I reraise 8-10 bb for hand like this.

With that hand, me with AQ and board KQ2, I already assume whoever else that remains in the hand had a K or better. Then I watch how the bets go, if they raise they feel like they have nothing to worry about and probably have AK or AA or even KK, if they just call or min raise I'd keep an eye on them for slowplay. What are the suits, are you 3 or 4 to a flush? There is a lot to look into with hand speculation.

Sometimes you are going to lose money with top pair and good kicker but this is the variance the game loves to dish out.

Hold Em is a 5 card game. Between the 5 cards after the river, and the two cards in your hand, whoever has the best hand wins.

So if the board come A,A,K,K,8... If you have a Q and your opponent has a J, you will win with two-pair and a Q kicker. It's the best 5 cards at the end of the hand if that makes sense. I think that is the question that you asked, but I might have misread it. If so sorry.

Originally Posted by thomasguy3419

Hi everyone. NLHE 6 Max ZOOM cash game on PokerStars.
Can AQ lose you money by not having the best kicker?
For example the A flops and you don't have K kicker, only Q kicker and opponent has AK.
Or even worse when the Q flops and opponent has KK.
And what do you do with AQ when the flop is KQ2?

it CAN, doesn't mean you shouldn't play it though. It's the #1 bust out hand of the main event and most other tournaments for a reason.

Originally Posted by thomasguy3419

Hi everyone. NLHE 6 Max ZOOM cash game on PokerStars.
Can AQ lose you money by not having the best kicker?
For example the A flops and you don't have K kicker, only Q kicker and opponent has AK.
Or even worse when the Q flops and opponent has KK.
And what do you do with AQ when the flop is KQ2?

I myself play there (the zoom is very rare), look at the aggression of the opponent at pre flop, bets the flop, you may want to call and see the turn

Yes, you can easily lose))) This is the same card here and a pair of aces falls from 2 7 so you just need to know what's happening on the board and the cooler often happens AQ on AK, AJ and AQ))) so it's just necessary to survive and play farther...

Originally Posted by thomasguy3419

Hi everyone. NLHE 6 Max ZOOM cash game on PokerStars.
Can AQ lose you money by not having the best kicker?
For example the A flops and you don't have K kicker, only Q kicker and opponent has AK.
Or even worse when the Q flops and opponent has KK.

You should have asked, "Can AA lose you money?"

Yes, very well. There are no poker hands that guarantee you money. It only gives your winning odds of 80% but that doesn't mean you are going to win that hand.

The only advantage in Casino games is Poker has much better odds for making some money against other games where House has better odds.

So, if your aim is to guarantee you money then poker is a wrong game. You should play Chess.

And what do you do with AQ when the flop is KQ2?

You should fold because opponent might have Q2.

Originally Posted by PokerNuts01

Poker is a game about ranges. As such, there is no cookie-cutter answer to questions like this...

+1

Yes, if you open UTG tighter tags will many times just call AK, nit will mostly call AK. In 3bet pots AK is a real possibility. You only reduce the number of AK combos from 16 to 12 by having A blocker, compared to 12 combos of QQ,KK,AA.

Without good dynamics you don’t do a big mistake by folding AQo to 3bet, AQs is a tad better. If you are unsure you make money by folding.

Originally Posted by thomasguy3419

And what do you do with AQ when the flop is KQ2?

There is no real answer to this, everything you know about poker is on the line here. Bet, x/fold, x/call are all valid answers.

Against very passive fish caller you might for example bet and get value from AJ,Q9,Q8s and any poket pair etc. If your villain bets you can just fold. Against super agro you might opt to call 3 streets =) Against passive tag you might op to x/fold and if flop goes x just bet turn or river (sometimes both) for value.

If you don’t know what to do, betting might be the way to go mostly. You still have outs to improve, just stay away from multi street bluffs and remember that after you get called you are in disadvantage against unknown.

This topic is related: https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash...rcards-320865/

Originally Posted by thomasguy3419

Hi everyone. NLHE 6 Max ZOOM cash game on PokerStars.
Can AQ lose you money by not having the best kicker?
For example the A flops and you don't have K kicker, only Q kicker and opponent has AK.
Or even worse when the Q flops and opponent has KK.
And what do you do with AQ when the flop is KQ2?

Man, some time ago, when i played more, with help of hud, i saw that the hole cards that most burst out me From tourneys, was the AQo/AQs. Luckly some days after i discovered this, i saw André Akkari comenting a tourney (he had a show called something like "at pro's Aim) where he comments every hand of the tourney of a player, and one of his comments was "common guy, you saw a AQ and shoved it like it was an AA. Do you really think that is worth losing your tourney here with AQ? Your hand has some value preflop but its mostly speculative, i would agree with this shove if you had less than 10 blinds"
And since then i play AQ has i play any hand of my top range.

Can AA lose money ofc it can, I mean normally I would say hello and welcome to new members , but as you have the same messiah name as me <, I think your question seems to novice :P

There is no quarantie in poker. You can loose with full house also and next time you can win with 8 high It depends how you play and how you read your opponents.
AQ is quite good but i would be careful if you dont get pair from flop.

Originally Posted by thomasguy3419

Hi everyone. NLHE 6 Max ZOOM cash game on PokerStars.
Can AQ lose you money by not having the best kicker?
For example the A flops and you don't have K kicker, only Q kicker and opponent has AK.
Or even worse when the Q flops and opponent has KK.
And what do you do with AQ when the flop is KQ2?

Try to guess the han of your opponent not on preflop but when you are in play with him by your skill and his reaction!

I can not say that this situation is easy
but if it does so, then he has every reason for this decision

My advice for playing AQ against a flop of KQ2, bet to see if your hand is good, if opponent raises fold, if opp calls see how large bets are, if the bet all-in fold.

AQ and QQ have lost me fortunes, with heavy pre raises you almost have to assume someone is carrying a A or K that will end up screwing you in the end. I do not love the ladies

AQ is overrated in my opinion yes it is ok , but at a full ring game its less impressive i would play it but i would play it cautiously , for example if your at a 9 player mtt and the blinds are 100/200 and antes are 25 say u raise it up to 500 from UTG with AQ and the action folds to the C/O who 3 bets u to like 1400 and then the button 4 bets it to 4000 the pot for one is bloated , two if your stack is shallow your put in a tough spot cause of the C/O who 3 bet u and 3 even if your deepstacked you still have those 2 active players behind you so yes it can get you into trouble so play it but play cautiously good luck pal.

If you play it and a king or ace comes up, proceed with caution, there will be times when others have you beat. You can bet it but if you get raised, be prepared to lay down the hand. It doesn't mean you should never play AQ - you can make it a profitable hand but it needs more careful playing than the monsters which are AA or KK.

I ended up losing AQs / AQ in a similar spot.

In the first case if a final table, I had 16 blinds in BT with AQs / the table rolled in wak and I shoovei, because the BB (was bigger with chips = 50bb) and at the same time doing some crazy, giving call with unadjusted range (KTo / JTs). In the end, I ended up finding an AA from BB.
I stopped to reflect on this spot, could I raise up to 3x and fold to a possible resteal?
Maybe in this situation I would not ever fold. ... but how can I play that hand at another opportunity ??


The other hand was similar, I ended up giving allin with 14 bb of HJ and I took a call from K8 and lost by getting hit 8 on the board.

Originally Posted by thomasguy3419

Hi everyone. NLHE 6 Max ZOOM cash game on PokerStars.
Can AQ lose you money by not having the best kicker?
For example the A flops and you don't have K kicker, only Q kicker and opponent has AK.
Or even worse when the Q flops and opponent has KK.
And what do you do with AQ when the flop is KQ2?

You also forgot to include A2. What good is a queen kicker against a lower kicker when the flop comes out A 2 J.

AQ is a good hand not a great hand. It will win against some hands, but is weak against AK.

Every starting hand can lose you money.

But I understand your question. AQ is tricky because of what you mentioned. If someone had AK, most would reraise preflop. Unless they’re sneaky.

You can win with any hand and lose with any hand. Better question to ask yourself how often you win, or lose, with a particular hand.

Is a good hand but depending on the position at the table and the number of previous bets can be quite risky.

You have to take ranges into consideration when playing AQ. On a KQ2 flop you have to consider if they have KQ, 22-TT and a lot of Kx Qx hands in their range.

Also if you have history on a opponent how sticky are they with bottom pair. Do they only call on the flop with top pair?

Well, here's an example: a tournament at $ 109. stacks around 100bb. from the middle position tight player makes a bet 2.5 bb. I'm on the BB AQ call. flop AQ5 rainbow, I check. he puts 1/3 of the pot, I reraise x2.6, he call. opens K. I put about 1/2 of the bank, he's all in. Most likely there was the same AK from which I started to get on the flop. I'm folding.

Originally Posted by thomasguy3419

Hi everyone. NLHE 6 Max ZOOM cash game on PokerStars.
Can AQ lose you money by not having the best kicker?
For example the A flops and you don't have K kicker, only Q kicker and opponent has AK.
Or even worse when the Q flops and opponent has KK.
And what do you do with AQ when the flop is KQ2?

After a couple thousand hours of playing poker you will define you relationship with the AQ and all the other pocket couples you will get. She may turn out to be your best girl. She could turn out to be the mother in law from hell. It will all come clear with experience.

Lol

Originally Posted by thomasguy3419

Hi everyone. NLHE 6 Max ZOOM cash game on PokerStars.
Can AQ lose you money by not having the best kicker?
For example the A flops and you don't have K kicker, only Q kicker and opponent has AK.
Or even worse when the Q flops and opponent has KK.
And what do you do with AQ when the flop is KQ2?

ANY hand can lose you money!

Originally Posted by AceKing725

ANY hand can lose you money!

my exact thoughts...

Originally Posted by thomasguy3419

Hi everyone. NLHE 6 Max ZOOM cash game on PokerStars.
Can AQ lose you money by not having the best kicker?
For example the A flops and you don't have K kicker, only Q kicker and opponent has AK.
Or even worse when the Q flops and opponent has KK.
And what do you do with AQ when the flop is KQ2?

yes you can lose alot cause any pair has you preflop beat also i lose enough with ak and aq is a huge dagger in my skull!

Originally Posted by thomasguy3419

Hi everyone. NLHE 6 Max ZOOM cash game on PokerStars.
Can AQ lose you money by not having the best kicker?
For example the A flops and you don't have K kicker, only Q kicker and opponent has AK.
Or even worse when the Q flops and opponent has KK.
And what do you do with AQ when the flop is KQ2?

Yesterday, ME: AQ flop A K 6 7 turn 9 river 2
final board: AK672
Opponent has AK
I lose, he has 2 pair, Aces and Kings

Today, in tourney, I am blinded all, but I have AQ(off)
final board, K9453
Opponent has QK, I lose to his KK

Eventually AQ will be a hero for us, have faith.

KQ2 a flop bet I keep C but maybe I did not insist more on the turn there really can not stress more but this board favors another J10 than even an AK but I still venture one CBET
mateuspoket

AQ , flop is KQ2 . I bet 1/3 pot for info. If opponent raise me I fold . If check me probably drawing or have Qx .