Work, Marriage, Poker, Alcohol, etc... Where's the Blame?

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In your opinion, can work like playing poker promote or favor the development of illnesses - whether physical, mental or social?
In my humble opinion this is the craze that exists for a group that controls the laws and regulations of a society, wanting to determine what is good or what is bad for third parties, and in order not to appear too severe, they make use of social arguments, or of generosity, as if they were better able to take care of the life of the third party, than he himself, and the attitude of the third party can only bring harm to himself.
They carry this with a poor argument, as a rule, to try to prove that that human being is not going to do him any good when doing that.
It is not a rule-free society. The human being must be prevented from harming others, and must have as much information and knowledge as that society can give him, so that he can make the best choices for his life and suffer the consequences, consciously, or , the more conscious he is.
Why do I get this credit? Because when you say, "Can't it hurt him?"
- How many people do you know who got screwed because they married the wrong person? He was a happy guy, fun, loose, full, in short, happy, and that today you feel a sad, bitter, anguished guy, because he chose the wrong person to marry. The solution then would be to lead a campaign to prevent people from getting married? Would it be this?
- How many people do you know who started a business, spent 30 years saving money to start their own business, and came to lose everything ... So, are we going to stop people from starting their own businesses?
- And I'm going to exaggerate a little more about the old saying, because people jumped off the bridge ... So we have to stop building bridges ...
So, what some people try to make me believe is that poker can bring harm to your life, so we have to stop this activity.
Wouldn't it be right, everything can or cannot bring harm to your life? Opening a business, getting married, (...).
- The problem is not in the bridge, but how that asshole used the bridge to end his life;
- The problem is not in the marriage, but in what that relationship caused damage to those two people;
- The problem is not the "poker institution", but what some people are prone to "decivilization";
If people end their lives by doing the wrong things, either because they apply the wrong thing in their veins, or because they marry the wrong person, or because they open the wrong business. Can't we look at it as compulsive behaviors?
The game is just another element to choose or not, that fits the decisions of our life.
Someone can get a gun and go shooting, or they can go to drugs, drink beer, they can get married and end their life and family, they can play poker, ...
In my opinion, we have to stop being ridiculous and pathetic to think that poker is a transcendental element to end someone's life, as it is not marriage or anything else, that is, if the human being is in his health full mental, and that is what I want to get to, the human being, out of his mental health, will burst with his life with whatever he wants, and the human being in his full mental health will have to deal with all the time decisions that push you for better or for worse.
What's your opinion?
 
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If you're irresponsible, anything can harm you or others. Get what you need for that and become responsible, problem solved. There's shouldn't be more complicated answer to this.

Their true "problem" is that man's reliability naturally requires qualities such as self-awareness, self-uprightness. Each individual becomes more independent on his/her own view, desires and lose the passive attitude in life. And starts to demand control of it.
You must have heard that personal freedom is restricted by freedom of others. That goes both ways. If everyone in society become "too much of a person" not much of a freedom will left for the government, beyond their direct duties.
 
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In my opinion, everything is simple. Everyone must define their goal, and move step by step, to achieve it. All the problems people have are only because they cannot clearly understand what they want and are not able to define their goal and work to achieve it.
 
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Every country has its laws and if most of the people support these there is nothing to be done. Unfortunately poker is still considered pure gambling in many countries same as slots, roulette and other pure chance casino games. This is slowly changing but process is slow. In my opinion poker should be separated from the gambling and regulated in different way more closer to the sports than to the gambling.
 
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it's your fault, if you don't have responsibility forget it
 
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I am not married, I do not drink alcohol, I do not smoke, and I lead a healthy lifestyle. Usually, I feel great and enjoy life. Poker is a part of my life, and a favorite hobby.
 
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I am not married, I do not drink alcohol, I do not smoke, and I lead a healthy lifestyle. Usually, I feel great and enjoy life. Poker is a part of my life, and a favorite hobby.
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Yeah those who control the laws of a society would like as much control as they can. They love to take control of your soft spots just to make them even softer.
And then there would be people who lost a fortune playing poker regreting this and crying Oh why nobody stopped me. And those would come and say Oh you stupid donkey, you just not supposed to do anything that can do any harm. Here, sit watch TV and be a vegetable.
They love to suppress peoples will.
And that sucks noodles.
 
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if you have a good job and play for little money, then poker is fun. Gambling addiction for the last money is already a disease
 
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Unfortunately I didn't understand clearly your first sentences, are u talking about why governments and other leaders giving us a chance to ruin our lives? And they still want to protect us from what they gave us?

Cause if it is your point, I must say its exactly what is going on and messing this whole World. Did you know that around 1930 the big cigarette factories all stated that smoking is great for your health? They gave as the chance to be able to smoke by making cigs, they stated it is great for your health and when they changed their words many people were addicted to continue to sell them even they are unhealthy.

Through the whole pandemic the casinos were open in my country till all the restaurants, apartments were closed. You see, where the government and the leaders's purses are involved, they taking another view on that, and everything goes to the money and the power.

Be open-minded guys, cause they will ruin the whole world with their selfish decisions, and we are the ones who have to rebuilt what they collapsed. I really love online poker, I think in logical boundaries everyone could play in the future as well, cause it has a fun in it, and the community is clever and amazing. But I wasn't be suprised either if this game would not be involved in a more fair future. We will see.
 
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You see a person drowning, but you cannot swim. How can this person be saved? It is necessary for this person to learn to swim. Of course, not all people can control themselves and cope with a particular habit. One can play and enjoy the game, while the other gets excited, cannot live without alcohol, they can lose everything they have, etc. These people need help, help in finding the root cause of these rash actions, help in learning to swim.
 
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You see a person drowning, but you cannot swim. How can this person be saved? It is necessary for this person to learn to swim. Of course, not all people can control themselves and cope with a particular habit. One can play and enjoy the game, while the other gets excited, cannot live without alcohol, they can lose everything they have, etc. These people need help, help in finding the root cause of these rash actions, help in learning to swim.
Exactly. Not help in taking away people rights to swim.
 
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Every country has its laws and if most of the people support these there is nothing to be done. Unfortunately poker is still considered pure gambling in many countries same as slots, roulette and other pure chance casino games. This is slowly changing but process is slow. In my opinion poker should be separated from the gambling and regulated in different way more closer to the sports than to the gambling.

Poker is gambling, just gambling with and edge if you have the skill to win. 90% of poker players are losers. Some do have gambling problems. It will always be regulated like gambling.
 
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Lmao

All of the above! I aint saying why and what for, but yeah.
 
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If you are able to be skeptical about yourself and look at yourself from the outside, then you will be able to do everything.
 
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Hi Friend.

Poker is a game that can become addictive, but you're right, it depends on each one, in my country it's rare to see someone who makes a living from it, as a hobby, yes, there are several who take it that way. way, but in my case I think they see it as a waste of time, but well, they are not going to trust this until they see positive results and I am going to show them to them.
 
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In your opinion, can work like playing poker promote or favor the development of illnesses - whether physical, mental or social?
In my humble opinion this is the craze that exists for a group that controls the laws and regulations of a society, wanting to determine what is good or what is bad for third parties, and in order not to appear too severe, they make use of social arguments, or of generosity, as if they were better able to take care of the life of the third party, than he himself, and the attitude of the third party can only bring harm to himself.
They carry this with a poor argument, as a rule, to try to prove that that human being is not going to do him any good when doing that.
It is not a rule-free society. The human being must be prevented from harming others, and must have as much information and knowledge as that society can give him, so that he can make the best choices for his life and suffer the consequences, consciously, or , the more conscious he is.
Why do I get this credit? Because when you say, "Can't it hurt him?"
- How many people do you know who got screwed because they married the wrong person? He was a happy guy, fun, loose, full, in short, happy, and that today you feel a sad, bitter, anguished guy, because he chose the wrong person to marry. The solution then would be to lead a campaign to prevent people from getting married? Would it be this?
- How many people do you know who started a business, spent 30 years saving money to start their own business, and came to lose everything ... So, are we going to stop people from starting their own businesses?
- And I'm going to exaggerate a little more about the old saying, because people jumped off the bridge ... So we have to stop building bridges ...
So, what some people try to make me believe is that poker can bring harm to your life, so we have to stop this activity.
Wouldn't it be right, everything can or cannot bring harm to your life? Opening a business, getting married, (...).
- The problem is not in the bridge, but how that asshole used the bridge to end his life;
- The problem is not in the marriage, but in what that relationship caused damage to those two people;
- The problem is not the "poker institution", but what some people are prone to "decivilization";
If people end their lives by doing the wrong things, either because they apply the wrong thing in their veins, or because they marry the wrong person, or because they open the wrong business. Can't we look at it as compulsive behaviors?
The game is just another element to choose or not, that fits the decisions of our life.
Someone can get a gun and go shooting, or they can go to drugs, drink beer, they can get married and end their life and family, they can play poker, ...
In my opinion, we have to stop being ridiculous and pathetic to think that poker is a transcendental element to end someone's life, as it is not marriage or anything else, that is, if the human being is in his health full mental, and that is what I want to get to, the human being, out of his mental health, will burst with his life with whatever he wants, and the human being in his full mental health will have to deal with all the time decisions that push you for better or for worse.
What's your opinion?
Wow cese1962, this is deep. Who is telling you this? I haven't heard poker spoken this derogatorily since the 80s. Television coverage in the 90s lifted the stigma and turned it into a national pastime. Black Friday was brought on by the government's attack on the not-so-ethical sites who were laundering money for the drug cartels, not to save us from ourselves. Currently, the American Indian casino coalition is trying to get legislation passed to again illegalize online gambling, but that's only because they believe it eats into their profit margins. Once again, it's all about agendas and money and has nothing to do with the evils of poker.
 
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I think if all parties act responsibly, Poker is great.
It can be a source of income for professionals and source of entertainment for recreational players.
In general, it's a good exercise for risk management and decision making.
 
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