WeenieSVK
Visionary
Silver Level
I know some of you will want to kill me but for me the most overrated player is Phill Hellmuth. Simply because so many people talk about him like about the best player of all time.. its not truth in my opinion...
Second is ElkY
And underrated? Hard to say, maybe Eugene Katchalov?
Second is ElkY
And underrated? Hard to say, maybe Eugene Katchalov?
n3rv
Visionary
Silver Level
Thought this thread was worth a bump.
Agree with this. Huck is the man and underrated in comparison to most well known TV players. He doesn't play in the limelight too often but when he does it is worth watching.
It is true he is generally known and rated but not a household name to the same extent of Ivey, Negreanu, etc. They may play more but Huck definitely has the ability to beat any of them heads-up.
His heads-up play has certainly helped me at final tables.
Agree with this. Huck is the man and underrated in comparison to most well known TV players. He doesn't play in the limelight too often but when he does it is worth watching.
It is true he is generally known and rated but not a household name to the same extent of Ivey, Negreanu, etc. They may play more but Huck definitely has the ability to beat any of them heads-up.
His heads-up play has certainly helped me at final tables.
SeaRun
Visionary
Silver Level
The game changes so much it's hard to rate who's best and worst.
There's a few females I think might just be in line for most underrated. They don't seem to play as many games as the top guys, but they're still there in some big tourneys.
Overrated is quite subjective to your last (few) tourney(s), as the song goes, "You're only as good as your last record".
While I have a sincere respect for Phil's poker skills, I question his antics and attitude. Maybe it is an act for his brand, maybe it's his way of controlling a "tilt at the tables" for a "tilt away from the cards", whatever.
However, when Phil and Tony G are at the same table, it's like the poker now plays 2nd fiddle for Tony with his main goal to see how many times he can get Phil to blow a gasket.
There's a few females I think might just be in line for most underrated. They don't seem to play as many games as the top guys, but they're still there in some big tourneys.
Overrated is quite subjective to your last (few) tourney(s), as the song goes, "You're only as good as your last record".
I like Hellmuth, i find it hillarious when he gets crushed in the cash games
While I have a sincere respect for Phil's poker skills, I question his antics and attitude. Maybe it is an act for his brand, maybe it's his way of controlling a "tilt at the tables" for a "tilt away from the cards", whatever.
However, when Phil and Tony G are at the same table, it's like the poker now plays 2nd fiddle for Tony with his main goal to see how many times he can get Phil to blow a gasket.
IPlay
Bum hunts 25NL
Silver Level
Overrated is Gus Hansen who has not had a winning year in the last 5 years but still gets worshiped. Sure he won a high roller tournament but anyone can do that if they got the stake and run good.
Also don't think anyone over rates Mike Matusow but he really is a bad player when it comes to being considered for "pro status"
Also don't think anyone over rates Mike Matusow but he really is a bad player when it comes to being considered for "pro status"
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LM93
Rising Star
Bronze Level
If the mouth didn't have the lending power he does he'd probably be homeless. Maybe thats a tad to harsh but i really Don't rate him at all tbh.
IPlay
Bum hunts 25NL
Silver Level
Probably, I remember on High Stakes Poker Phil Helmuth had to stake him the 100k just to play the game. Pretty sad considering the guy has $8 million in tournament winnings(Probably all pre 2006 haha)
theRaven68
Legend
Bronze Level
By my opinion most underrated are Yevgeniy Timoshenko, Eric Seidel and recently Tom Dwan.
Overrated Tony G and ElkY.
Howard Lederer as poker player is forgoten.
And do you remember Andrew (Andy) Beal? Banker who demolished pros.
Overrated Tony G and ElkY.
Howard Lederer as poker player is forgoten.
And do you remember Andrew (Andy) Beal? Banker who demolished pros.
rickypr18
Rock Star
Silver Level
I think Isildur1 is overrated, he's exciting, that's undeniable, but overrated. He's not as great as some people describe him to be. He's probably down lifetime in online cash games. How can a great player be down lifetime in online cash games?
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SwiftHax
Rock Star
Silver Level
Gus Hansen has to be one of the most overrated players out there. He lost over over 15 million dollars on Full Tilt. I don't know if he can be called a Poker Pro because he doesn't make money from playing Poker anymore. He's just blasting it away on FTP.
I too love how Tony G plays against Phil or any other poker pro for that matter. He really brings the spirit to tables and is hilarious to watch. Also, he's one of the very few Lithuanian poker players out there, although he's not much of a poker pro and plays just for fun.
I too love how Tony G plays against Phil or any other poker pro for that matter. He really brings the spirit to tables and is hilarious to watch. Also, he's one of the very few Lithuanian poker players out there, although he's not much of a poker pro and plays just for fun.
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bernotas22
Legend
Silver Level
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PoKeRFoRNiA
Legend
Bronze Level
rytciaq
Visionary
Silver Level
I don't think Tony G is even playing professionally anymore, he has a betting site so I don' think we will see him at the poker tables anymore. And I would agree that Yevgeniy Timoshenko is clearly underrated player.