Live Poker: Going South

[OzExorcist]

Yeah I cry Uncle too - but honest question here- Are casinos bound by Roberts Rules or are they really just Roberts "suggestions"?

No - and that's one of the most annoying things about poker, there is no universal set of rules.

That said, Robert's Rules are the ones most commonly used and they're as close as we've got to a universal set. Most card rooms will base their rules on Robert's Rules, but they don't necessarily follow them to the letter and may have their own exceptions or additions.

 

[postflopper]

The only possible angle I can think of for doing this is, he picks up AA, decides to put in the $33 and declare all-in, knowing full well this ruckus will kick up about him going south. It would make him look particularly weak when he starts arguing he should not be committed to $1433, just $33. Also, he will be happy with either result, whether the floor declares the whole $1433 to be in the middle, or the $1400 to be in play. Everyone at the table will assume he has weak holdings and can push him off it easily when it clearly is not the case.

I see good comments and suggestions provided by many individuals, thank you all for the input.

 

[rugby0]

player was very native if he was just going to leave the game. The dealer was the problem here he/she should have asked the player for his intentions before dealing the hand.

 

[OzExorcist]

player was very native if he was just going to leave the game. The dealer was the problem here he/she should have asked the player for his intentions before dealing the hand.

As discussed above, that doesn't seem to be the norm in this card room - as long as you and some money are at the table you'll continue to be dealt hands.

FWIW I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Think about how much it would slow the game up (and how annoying it would be) if the dealer had to ask players all the time whether they were staying or not. Better to just keep dealing hands until either there's nobody in the seat to deal to or the player says stop.

 

[Gunner57]

was 5am at that time and he was going to leave. He suddenly declared to the table after the cards have been dealt (he was UTG), 'Alright guys, my last hand, i'm all in.' He then pushed 33 dollars into the middle.

All of us were stunned and asked who had stacked him. Nobody had. The dealer asked him, and he showed that he had racked the remaining 1.4k and placed it on a chair beside him, not visible to the rest of the table.

Just wondering, what do u guys reckon the ruling will be at other casinos?

player was very native if he was just going to leave the game. The dealer was the problem here he/she should have asked the player for his intentions before dealing the hand.

The underlined text for me is why the ruling that the floor gave is correct.

The fish took the chips off of the table and were not visable before the action took place. This shows the players intent before play began.

The dealer should have made sure that the chips were in view and playable when he dealt the hand.

I have had a similar situation happen. I dont think it is that uncommon when playing with fish and when I saw it, there was a similar ruling and I agree that it is fair as long as the chips that the player had intended to take with him are off the table/out of view and there was clear intent.

To make the player go with his verbal commitment I think is taking a literal interpretation of the rules where as the casino should also be at fault for allowing the chips to be taken off of the table.

Good example though. Sucks about the hand but at least you got another few hundred out of it

 

[MediaBLITZ]

Think about how much it would slow the game up (and how annoying it would be) if the dealer had to ask players all the time whether they were staying or not. Better to just keep dealing hands until either there's nobody in the seat to deal to or the player says stop.

Slows it up for 2 seconds and it's not annoying at all - they always ask where I play whenever a player has just arrived and is not settled or if they see them racking up. It's no big deal at all.

 

[JusSumguy]

Slows it up for 2 seconds and it's not annoying at all - they always ask where I play whenever a player has just arrived and is not settled or if they see them racking up. It's no big deal at all.

Yep


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