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I cant speak about real money yet. I started online poker in January. Ive made no deposits and I have $118 spread through 4 sites. I only play freerolls and $.10 sit n goes so I learn to stick to my bankroll plan. I have played some spin and goes on poker stars. All free on tickets I won. The biggest was $5 ticket I won in a freeroll 3 days ago...and lost.
But to stay ahead and never go broke you have stick to the bankroll requirements laid out on most poker educational sites. Its like a boring grind at times but it takes a certain mindset, perserverance, and disciplin. At least thats what Im going to keep telling myself as I study and grind for pennys. Ill see where Im at next January.
 
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In the year 2018 I had some gains in game of spin go, I got to play in the buy in of 100 dollars .. but it was always in this buy in that I carried in the head it seemed that everything is against me ... I played buy-in of 3, and won, 7, 15, 30, I took and made my bankroll grow, had month I deposited only 15 dollars and made to turn 500 dollars, and went to the buy in of 100, and in it I cleared the bankroll, the variance it's cruel, I gave up I'm just going to play freeroll, because you need to have a lot of stomach to put up with bads, and lately I can not stress myself about it .. Anyway, playing poker in a professional way is for the few!
 
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In 2011 I won about 1,000 Euro on Stan James (old MPN) playng only freerolls. The final tournament had prize of 10,000 Euro, entree fee was 100 Euro. I took 4th place. But since then I was never so lucky, won just small amounts.
 
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I made a $30 deposit back a few years ago and ran it up to about $1100 in under a year playing micro/low stakes. That's not counting a few withdrawals during that time. After reaching that high mark the winning drought settled in and I went straight down. I know that's not considered "real money" but hey, it's online poker; it's all a fkng gamble.
 
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If you start off small then it's a hard work grind. You need to study, especially the hands you play. Look back at them how could you improve.For example how could of you got more chips , save more chips from misplay. Is you bet sizing off in a few hands

This is why I am a casual poker player
 
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Back when U.S. players could play on pokerstars, I ran my account up to more than $4,000 from an initial buy-in of $100. I remember I won a $2 tournament for more than $850. My biggest score was I finished in the top 60 of a Sunday Million tournament and won $2,400+ (the buy-in was $200). After that cash, I started playing $30 sit-n-goes and worked the account to more than $4,000, then cashed out $2,000 right before Black Friday. I eventually got the rest of it but it took awhile. Man, I miss those days.
 
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Well I have had a few good wins. My biggest win was $5700 and I cashed it all out but $100, so it will take a long time for them to ever get it back!! I have had a few other $100+ wins as well. You have to be able to take the ups with the downs. My financial situation has changed so I just play the smaller tournaments now. But I still enjoy playing!!
 
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Online only?

Just curious why live doesn't count? Are you suggesting that online is rigged?
 
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You have to be told in the long run you will be the winner

 
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I made +800 in my first month about 10 years ago using free $50 bankroll provided to me by the site simillar to CardsChat.
Played both online and live poker for 6 years since then, during these 6 years been moving up from NL10 to NL200 cash tables, playing 4-8tables at the same time, withdrawing bankroll and starting all over again from $1K bankroll at NL10 to 12-15K bankroll at NL200. Played 8 tables at lower limits and maximum 4 tables at NL200 tables. I spent several months each time, 4-8 months, then all over again and again. Best month I've ever had was +8K during 1 month, and that's because I've won 5K for the first place in MTT, sometimes had no profit at all during a month, only rakeback profit. Always played patiently and stepped down to another limit if bad beats started to hit me.

My older brother started playing poker because of me and he won more than 50K at PS and more than 20K at fulltilt. During his first several years. But he played only MTTs. He actually won $11K for the 1st place with $1 buy-in and won another $11K with $11 buy-in at the pokerstars.

I had a break from poker after those 6 years and playing it again, but mostly freerolls and withdraw any winnings to support my business ideas. Don't like the idea of playing like a maniak for 8+ hours per day 5+ days per week.

Even if you win money at poker you still lose. Why? You're empty. What you're doing by playing poker? What useful product do you create for the society when you're playing poker? Do you save lifes, do you create something? What are you doing? You're trying to rob the other robbers around you and explain things with some trashy mathematical theories, psychological tricks and such... In the reality, being objective, a poker player creates just one useful product - it's the rake for the business owners, so the poker reg is a mule, doesn;t matter if he's winning or losing. I have changed it in my life, I've invested time and money into CNC machines, learned CAD and CAM and I'm producing things that are useful for humans, playing online poker while doing business...

Most of the poker players are junkees, and I was part of this team... playing for serotonin and adrenalin, with money as a excuse and objectively wasting each others time for notthing useful. Being serious... PokerStars celebrated 200billion hands recently, converting it to human-hours I can only admit that they've erased thousands of human lives like if they have never existed... 87 million minutes is 100 years... 200 billion hands 2 minutes each... how many human\hours converted into average human lifes??? And these people could have learned/created something useful for the society, instead they're wasting their lifetime like some heroine drug users.

Right now I think that poker is only good if you a) have a goal for investing your winings b) your poker sessions are not your single source of income. SO if you're sitting at the table having 3 restaurants, couple of carwashes and dozen of houses and you're playing to win money for furniture factory you're planning to buy - then you're doing the right thing, cause you're having a stable source of income outside the poker table and you're playing to increase your income using poker table, this is smart...
 
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I totally agree with you. Too it is impossible to play steadily in plus. Always the swing. There were a couple of games in prizes in a row and I think, finally learn your game. And then once, and a week without winning.
 
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The truth is that poker is mathematically based game. With that in mind poker houses with all the data about different game they have can calculate the rake so all players are losers and pretty much that is what is going on.
 
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Poker just ain't easy. Sure it is easy to learn how to play. It is easy to win a few times. But it is still a random distribution of 52 unique cards. Your 94% equity in the hand is no real protection from someone hitting their 2 outer on you.

Online I have turned $0.00 into >$2400 net. This isn't a million but it started with freerolls, that then lead to microstakes, then that lead to low stakes play. Strictly following good bankroll management techniques is very important.

I don't have all the answers, if i did i would have 100,000's instead of 2000, but it is clear to me, that winning big pots and losing small pots is important. Learning when to take a hand that doesn't belong to you is important. Playing too many bad hands, out of position, is a killer. Knowing when to fold is really important, but you can't fold your way to the final table.

If you are playing good fundamental poker, do not let the losses get you down. If you are not playing good fundamental poker, you probably will not be a consistent winner, but by studying, reading, and putting this stuff into practice at lower stakes may help you. (2018/2019 my cash rate in tournaments and sit-n-gos was 26%,\; for 2019 only it is now 36% - spending more time looking for leaks and studying seems to be paying off)

Good luck.
 
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Maybe my English is not good enough, or you have just misread the thread...
i did my homework, I have my winnings, but when it comes to bigger money, i have him beaten on the turn with my AKs against his TJo, but he gets a miracle flush with 4 suited cards on the board, my KK runs into a set of 4's, as he decided, 45s is a good hand ITM and stuff like that...and it happens ALL THE TIME
I'm sure, I will get there one day, and I was only asking, if someone has already gotten there, has made a fortune and is living the dream instead of dreaming his life ;)
Do not worry, it is the variance of MTTs, that is pretty high.
Stay calm, stay modest and keep learning. Do a proper bankroll management as well,
and then you are ready to go, I would say. BRM is very important in my opinion, that you
feel not bad about loosing some bucks. This is the only thing, that I can recommend you.
And with this you will be always in a plus.
 
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The truth is that poker is mathematically based game. With that in mind poker houses with all the data about different game they have can calculate the rake so all players are losers and pretty much that is what is going on.

lol what?
 
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lol what?
What what?
I am saying that there is a rake limit at which poker is unbeatable even by negreanu because of the hidden information nature of the game. The online poker houses had collected all the data fromvall types of games cash spins heads up mtt so they can easily findvand set the rake for each game to the unbeattable limit minus very small fraction. So practically online is unbeatable on long run. If you find a big fish on micros you can beat the rake. If you win big in high byuin mtt good. But on the very long run you lose
 
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I dont know if anyone in this thread has mentioned it; but how do you stay disciplined? I read most of the posts here and I didnt see one that mentioned a method they use to stay within their bankroll consistently. I find it so tempting to move up and try a different stake, sometimes from boredom alone. Any suggestions?
 
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I have started my bankroll from freerolls and thru time I am now In the positive. It has only been a few months but I am up 500 now and I am playing mostly tournaments. it really depends on your experience and knowledge of the game.
 
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If I could get it through my thick skull not to call an all in with a pretty good hand whilst on the bubble cause I think the player seated to my left is just picking on me I'd be in better shape $$
 
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Best advice I have for, yes, this has happened to me as well with online poker. is it rigged? lol hell yes it is, don't think for a moment that it's not,

but that doesn't mean they never pay out, or that you can't win, but math and skill has to be out the window with online poker,

with 70 to 80% of the boards pairing, pot odds are out the the window for sure. it's more like Roulette than poker anymore.

I say this to you, Never Gamble with money you hold dear to your heart, expect to lose, but just try to have some fun,

when it's no longer fun to you, only play cash Tables or MTT at a Casino, or just get together with some friends for a good old fashion home game.

Life is to short to live in a down swing, try to give your loved ones the same kind of time you have wasted playing poker.

Tell your lover how good they look, watch their face turn red and enjoy your flush
invite your friends, or family over, and enjoy your full house.
Light a few Candles before bed, and enjoy your poker time"

Use those good things in life to pull you out of that low you're in. Peace and good luck..
 
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It depends what you concern as real money. I am on plus around 50$ but for a long run and mainly due to freerolls. Even from normal MTTs i am few $ on plus side but you should keep in mind that due to rake and blinds most players are on minus side. Serious efforts are needed if you want to be on plus.
 
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I had my up's and downs, I had some wins and lost it all, I had downswings and never caught the hot chair that lead me to a big win in a big tournament, although I didn't play different, in 2 years. I'm not that lucky guy anyway, and I want to ask you, if anybody is running in + (PLUS, ganancia, winnings) throughout all the time online gambling. Live poker doesn't count!!! To me it seems like Poker is just the biggest SLOT machine in the world, sometimes you win, but at the end there's always a zero to account for.

I'd like to open this thread to tell us all, when you "cracked" it, had a nice bankroll and kept winning "ever after" and if she weren't dead, they'd still raise today...
No fakes, no jokes, just some real success stories, please!
And I'm not talking about I had 10 cts and made it 2 Dollars, I'm talking about the real money !:damnmate:

Try something , write down all of the games you play , all of the buy ins , postions you end up , and GTD , at a long run you see a Pattern .
For example , when i win a little i suddenly change my stake ( Tournaments or cash games ) and thats a huge huge mistake , 90 % of the people who plays poker wanna make money over night , wanna get rich in 1 night or 1 week , you see some streamers that are making money and you want to be them , you dont see how hard they tried , what they sacrifices .

Find your Strong type of game in poker and keep grinding it , set a goal for yourself , say " i`m going to deposit 50$ and i want to make to 100$ in 1 month " , i have the same problem as you , its called bankroll management , people think its easy but its not , when you buy into 6 sit go and lose and you want to win it back that night , thats not easy :D
when you get a bad beat you put more money in the table to try to win that bad beat and lose more , thats your brain playing tricks on you .

For a Fresh start , read this article , thats going to help you
https://www.cardschat.com/poker-bankroll-management.php
 
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A honest question I have to play all in some books like K 3 or 10 5 and say this question because I met many such people and the question is why he plays so?
 
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When sitting at a cash game table, playing pot limit Omaha, I have a decent stack, but 1 of my opponents has 3x my stack size. He has been aggressive the whole time raising preflop every hand and betting post flop as well large amounts. I'm in a hand against him and 1 other player. The other player is small stacked and goes all in preflop. so when flop comes I have 1/3 of my chips in already and aggressive guy bets max on flop so its all in or fold for me. I flop a set so I call. There's a flush draw out there so im scared of that but I know I'm in the lead. Long story short, chip leader bully guy gets runner runner to make a straight. He was betting the flop max with basically nothing trying to make me fold but I don't. It seems suspicious how he made runner runner straight since it was a bluff bet and I was so far ahead percentage wise. I feel like either he's a site employee so it's like he's not really playing with his own money therefore he doesn't care win or lose and that's why he's raising on every hand pre and post flop, or he has some type of software installed that tells him what the turn and river cards will be in advance. I can't think of another reason to explain his play style. Mind you I've been playing at this table for the last 2 hours at least. It's a huge pot and contains my whole bankroll. Seems like he knows it. It would have nearly tripled my bankroll. Just seems so shady hands like these turn me off from playing online. Did I make the right play?
 
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