Is it alright to take money from fishes or degenerate gamblers?

[Akorps]

How do you know if they are or not, when playing online?

It is only because bad players throw away their money that it is possible to win money playing poker.

 

[degen909]

yes. by all means. for the degen. if he wants to give his money away.hey, why not.and for the fish. the only way you get better is when your sick of losing.so in short by all means take there money. nobody was sorry for taking my money while learning.
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[rifflemao]

The first time I played live $1\$2, I witnessed a degen bust out, rebuy, rinse and repeat. It was kind of disturbing, and yet he was like the poker police, pointing out every time someone broke a rule.

I felt kind of sorry for him and a few others who sat down and repeatedly lost, but I look at it like they were there to gamble and had the right to play however they wanted. Being a fish\donk\degen is kind of a rite of passage for poker players. You either get pissed off at losing and decide to get better...or you don't. Either way, it's your choice.

The only people I feel sorry for are those who are legitimately addicted and can't stop themselves from financial ruin. It's sad for that to happen, but the shark who takes them has a right to eat. It's business.

 

[trolaAa]

i wish everyones are like u and dont want to take my poor money

 

[pfb8888]

this must be the silliest reply ever.

I am sure I must have missed the sarcasm, but after some other threads here going on about morality I have realized what at first seems like sarcasm (cause it is just so ridiculous) is often a very serious reply.

I hope I just missed the sarcasm tho.............

seriously .. how can anyone who is a Christian justify taking money from the weak?

I know this is a poker forum ...but as an agnostic I think its silly to call yourself a Christian if you use your skill to take advantage of the weak..

 

[mapt02h]

If it's alright for casinos to do it, then it should be okay for poker players to do it. We pay our rake.

 

[ariolis30]

they have to learn the hard way. better you take it then someone else imo

 

[Leprekahn]

We are playing a skill game that we really enjoy and have taken the time to read up on, review hand histories, join poker forums...etc. Taking money from players who do it purely for the fun of the flip of the card or don't put in the time to get better at...when we take their money, feeling guilty about it should not enter the equation imo.

 

[fordman427]

If they are at the table they are fair game

 

[fletchdad]

seriously .. how can anyone who is a Christian justify taking money from the weak?

I know this is a poker forum ...but as an agnostic I think its silly to call yourself a Christian if you use your skill to take advantage of the weak..

srsly.... wtf......


done any drugs lately?

This is not a thread about - nor has anyone mentioned - being a christian..... lmao.

You are really weird or I have really taken the bait.

 

[seanbee01]

They come online aiming to take money from you so why not

 

[EvertonGirl]

if you don't contemplate how your actions affect others you are at best blind and at worst a simple animal.

just because everyone else does something is no justification for your actions.

taking anything from the weak is immoral...if you are a TRUE Christian...

and a two dollar prostitute is still a prostitute.

...and for the record I am a money whore...and not religious

Well I am blind when I don't have my glasses, for reading that is!! I am definitely simple and as I love all animals I don't mind being an animal either. Can I be a tiger tho, they are my fave animals

 

[ccocco]

logic in poker to make money once you got knowledge and experience you have to get the silver fish ...

 

[rifflemao]

There is nothing immoral in gaining a bad players chips, this is poker and it's what you are playing poker for.

Yep:

"It's immoral to let a sucker keep his money." -Canada Bill Jones

 

[kungfupanda1105]

thank you everyone for your feedback i play zoom so problem solved

 

[DillerDaller]

It is not immoral for anyone to win money from another person who is voluntarily playing online poker, no matter if they are addicted or not. I do however believe that poker in general needs better player protection similar to what unibet does in order to survive long term.

 

[jolubman]

Some fish may enjoy losing money as the money doesn't matter that much to them and it is worth the lost to be able to play.

 

[developer716]

I will be glad to receive a free gift because they simply give and not even lose )))

 

[SloPowers]

Like the saying goes: "if you can't spot the fish at the table ... it may be you!" Fish are there to be 'gutted'... it's pure sport so go for it!

 

[terryg642]

is it alright to take money

I too have trouble with this moral issue this is why I don't really like the cash games so much ,there is another way to look at it though ,we all can't be rich so we play lottery or maybe play in a big tourney were your return on investment and chances of winning are way better with a little skill,now after winning this tourney the person has an opportunity to make a real difference in the economy by starting a business or paying his house off.

 

[n3rv]

I've had issues with this in the past as well.

I think some people are addicted to being fishes so sometimes it can be a bit like selling heroin in a way.

However, I also remember when I was more of a fish. Looking back now I deserved to lose my money because of my lack of respect for the game. My motivation to gamble was more than to play poker properly. Indeed it still sometimes is severely flawed in moments of tilt.

I don't know. I don't play for high stakes anyway and people who do are generally CEOs of "****ing you over international ltd." or do other stuff that isn't exactly the most ethical. For example, I wouldn't exactly feel bad taking every last dime off an investment banker who gambled the entire economy away and was a lobbyist for fracking.

To be blatantly honest, I see poker as the peak of free market capitalism. It is pretty libertarian in nature. The game doesn't really give a **** about your personal ethical views and that is what is attractive about it - anyone can play. You can play it and do good things with your money, play it and do bad things with your money, or play it and lose all of your money. The responsibility of how you play the game is upon the individual. You can even play for free if you can't trust yourself with an investment.

For me now, an issue with the predatory nature of poker is just an issue with the predatory nature of society. Do I agree with the way everything is in the world? No. I don't like the dog eat dog, gotta get mine, nature that most humans buy into. But at the same time, I can't take care of everybody. If you've staked the same price as me and are coming after my chips, I'm going to try and find a way to beat you.

The game is the game. It is a sport to me. It isn't personal. I wish all the best for everyone in the future.

 

[OldDog456]

Absolutely, the object is to win and if someone steps into the ring they should know the risks.

 

[teepack]

Who else are you going to take it from? The good players?

 

[Faust]

They play with an unusual strategy which makes them win, you play with your strategy. The objective of the game is simple, winning, which means you have to steal the chips of the other players using your cards, in order to have a big stack. And that crazily leads to the answer of the question: it is perfect to steal their money!!! You even have an advantage which is knowing their strategy, so wait for good cards and kick him off the table

 

[jashiggs]

Who else you gonna steal the pot from right?

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