Have you ever seen something in poker that shocked or saddened you?

[NootNoot]

Sorry for the gloomy topic!

The other day I was reading the story of an online player who regularly loses $1000 a month or more playing NL2 cash games. It sounds almost impossible but he does, and it's been going on for years.

From what everyone can gather he doesn't work and he's got himself into debt, taking loans to try and keep playing. He's never had a winning month. People have tried to help him, telling him to stop or give him some strategy tips but he's convinced that everyone else is a lucky and a bad player, and that what he's doing is right.

He seems to play ok for a while before going on huge sprees where he jams all in preflop, usually beginning when the button or small blind raises when he is in the big blind. He believes he has to stand up to their aggression and this how he does it. He'll do it with any two cards and when he inevitably loses he'll become frustrated and start going all in preflop even more.

People would start to queue to get on the same table as him and players often end up 25-50 buyins in profit if they can get a seat. At one point he and all the players he was with on a particular day had their accounts suspended pending an investigation because the site thought he was intentionally chip dumping to them.

The whole thing made me sad, he obviously needs help but doesn't want any.

 

[rufininha14]

certainly, especially when I have a perfect game with the best cards, and the other player with the worst card simply takes the hand, even worse if he is close to the bubble

 

[pentazepam]

Sorry for the gloomy topic!

The other day I was reading the story of an online player who regularly loses $1000 a month or more playing NL2 cash games. It sounds almost impossible but he does, and it's been going on for years.

From what everyone can gather he doesn't work and he's got himself into debt, taking loans to try and keep playing. He's never had a winning month. People have tried to help him, telling him to stop or give him some strategy tips but he's convinced that everyone else is a lucky and a bad player, and that what he's doing is right.

He seems to play ok for a while before going on huge sprees where he jams all in preflop, usually beginning when the button or small blind raises when he is in the big blind. He believes he has to stand up to their aggression and this how he does it. He'll do it with any two cards and when he inevitably loses he'll become frustrated and start going all in preflop even more.

People would start to queue to get on the same table as him and players often end up 25-50 buyins in profit if they can get a seat. At one point he and all the players he was with on a particular day had their accounts suspended pending an investigation because the site thought he was intentionally chip dumping to them.

The whole thing made me sad, he obviously needs help but doesn't want any.

We had a player like this on Svenska Spel (Swedish Games) maybe 5-10 years ago. It was on a level equivalent of about 10 dollars in buy-in.

He donated an insane amount of money for the level several days a week for years before stopping.

Sometimes it feels predatory to take some people's money - but what can you do.

 

[Ingryd]

EI'm in a totally sad moment, I had a lot of beds and ended up losing my entire bankroll. I couldn't detect my mistakes and it gave me total tilt wondering if I can really continue Playing or am incompetent and must stop. I'm in this dilemma at the moment

 

[GNuTTz]

Absolutely, Yes, I have seen shocking outcomes in terms of bad beats and suck outs that have affected me tremendously. Especially deep in tournaments. You never forget those hands. They haunt you for years. 😣

 

[larabe1997]

yea losing with flush draw! that always make me sad

 

[s0ftdumps]

Sorry for the gloomy topic!

The other day I was reading the story of an online player who regularly loses $1000 a month or more playing NL2 cash games. It sounds almost impossible but he does, and it's been going on for years.

From what everyone can gather he doesn't work and he's got himself into debt, taking loans to try and keep playing. He's never had a winning month. People have tried to help him, telling him to stop or give him some strategy tips but he's convinced that everyone else is a lucky and a bad player, and that what he's doing is right.

He seems to play ok for a while before going on huge sprees where he jams all in preflop, usually beginning when the button or small blind raises when he is in the big blind. He believes he has to stand up to their aggression and this how he does it. He'll do it with any two cards and when he inevitably loses he'll become frustrated and start going all in preflop even more.

People would start to queue to get on the same table as him and players often end up 25-50 buyins in profit if they can get a seat. At one point he and all the players he was with on a particular day had their accounts suspended pending an investigation because the site thought he was intentionally chip dumping to them.

The whole thing made me sad, he obviously needs help but doesn't want any.

It's disheartening to hear about someone going through such a challenging situation. It's clear that this individual is struggling with a compulsive and destructive gambling behavior. While it's difficult to intervene when someone doesn't want help, expressing concern and encouraging professional assistance could be a way to approach the situation.

You might consider reaching out to him in a non-confrontational manner, expressing your worries and suggesting that seeking support from a counselor or a support group could be beneficial. It's essential to approach the conversation with empathy and understanding, acknowledging the challenges he's facing rather than placing blame.

If you believe he's a danger to himself or others, contacting the platform or seeking advice from professionals who specialize in addiction could be appropriate. However, ultimately, the decision to seek help lies with the individual, and fostering a supportive environment may increase the likelihood of him considering assistance.

 

[Poker Orifice]

Sorry for the gloomy topic!

The other day I was reading the story of an online player who regularly loses $1000 a month or more playing NL2 cash games. It sounds almost impossible but he does, and it's been going on for years.

From what everyone can gather he doesn't work and he's got himself into debt, taking loans to try and keep playing. He's never had a winning month. People have tried to help him, telling him to stop or give him some strategy tips but he's convinced that everyone else is a lucky and a bad player, and that what he's doing is right.

He seems to play ok for a while before going on huge sprees where he jams all in preflop, usually beginning when the button or small blind raises when he is in the big blind. He believes he has to stand up to their aggression and this how he does it. He'll do it with any two cards and when he inevitably loses he'll become frustrated and start going all in preflop even more.

People would start to queue to get on the same table as him and players often end up 25-50 buyins in profit if they can get a seat. At one point he and all the players he was with on a particular day had their accounts suspended pending an investigation because the site thought he was intentionally chip dumping to them.

The whole thing made me sad, he obviously needs help but doesn't want any.

What site does he play on?
What country is he from?
What is his screen name?
Where did you read this? (link?)

Tell him to switch to playing SPINS. His strategy might be more effective there, because if he's 3bai from BB vs. Villain on BTN's raise &/or open-jamming, a decent portion of the time he'll be making the right play.

 

[Poker Orifice]

found it.
326 pages of people trying to give suggestions & the guy chooses to continue doing what he's been doing for 14yrs. He's obviously insane and he's just very fortunate to be only doing this at the 2nl, 5nl, & 10nl tables. I was going to say "Can you imagine if he played 25nl, 100nl?" But then I realized that he likely feels he'd easily be winning at those buyin levels (they'd be respecting his raises!)

 

[Poker Orifice]

Well there's the first thing in 'the thinking' he'd need to change... 'want to get my money back'

Get him to join Cardschat! I'm sure he'd feel right at home with so many of the posts.

 

[G0930]

Can you imagine if he played 25nl, 100nl?" But then I realized that he likely feels he'd easily be winning at those buyin levels (they'd be respecting his raises!)

Only for a while. As soon as he would become a regular he would be eaten up all the same cause the other players will catch on how he is playing

 

[Rob Hobson]

EI'm in a totally sad moment, I had a lot of beds and ended up losing my entire bankroll. I couldn't detect my mistakes and it gave me total tilt wondering if I can really continue Playing or am incompetent and must stop. I'm in this dilemma at the moment

You're not the first nor last. Happen to all, to me not once or twice, but several times. The harder is the moment, the longer is the brake taken. And we never stop but back for more.
Let it be.
Let there be rock🎸

 

[ficticius]

If one day playing a tournament in Madrid. A drunkard got up, climbed up to the table, pulled down his pants and showed his parts to the whole room. It was a regrettable thing.

 

[hardongear]

Paisting the man, the myth, the legend lol. He's the most shocking, sad and very entertaining thing I have seen in poker(I'm sorry I have sick sense of humor). Idk about debt or how exactly he affords it but if go thru the whole thread at some point I believe someone from his country mentions govt money. I assumed welfare or whatever it's called in his country.

EDIT: Never played with him before anyone asks. I don't need to bum hunt or steal from candy from babies(putting it as nicely as I could).

Cheers!!!

 

[NootNoot]

Paisting the man, the myth, the legend lol. He's the most shocking, sad and very entertaining thing I have seen in poker(I'm sorry I have sick sense of humor). Idk about debt or how exactly he affords it but if go thru the whole thread at some point I believe someone from his country mentions govt money. I assumed welfare or whatever it's called in his country.

EDIT: Never played with him before anyone asks. I don't need to bum hunt or steal from candy from babies(putting it as nicely as I could).

Cheers!!!

Yes that's him. I was reading through a reddit summary of him, with links to specific things said. He said he was taking out loans and eating once a day at one point. Yes, he's on unemployment payments.

I get a little unemployment benefit that goes straight to the rent. My eating costs are very little because I'm only eating one meal per day. There are times when I must take more fast loans if need of clothes, unexpected bills, sickness etc. That's why getting back those $16k is so important to me.

The scary thing is, that $16k he refers to was his first year's loss since he'd been using pokertracker on a new computer he bought. He'd been playing for over 10 years before that.

 

[luckyfish98]

This is one of the many stories we hear
Such things happen every day to 90% of players
It's nothing unusual and unknown, it's just poker!!

 

[Poker Orifice]

Only for a while. As soon as he would become a regular he would be eaten up all the same cause the other players will catch on how he is playing

Yah, 'maybe' 2 or 3 hands.

 

[Emily Trott]

EI'm in a totally sad moment, I had a lot of beds and ended up losing my entire bankroll. I couldn't detect my mistakes and it gave me total tilt wondering if I can really continue Playing or am incompetent and must stop. I'm in this dilemma at the moment

It happens to everyone so don't be so hard on yourself. You might not have been making too many mistakes, at least fatal ones, and it was just the cards going against you. I guarantee you things will turn around so if you enjoy playing the game my advice is to continue playing. You've obviously been playing for quite awhile now so have faith in your play and don't second guess yourself. Good cards!

 

[jose_saleh]

Daniel N. loosing 2M in a year.

 

[hardongear]

Yes that's him. I was reading through a reddit summary of him, with links to specific things said. He said he was taking out loans and eating once a day at one point. Yes, he's on unemployment payments.



The scary thing is, that $16k he refers to was his first year's loss since he'd been using pokertracker on a new computer he bought. He'd been playing for over 10 years before that.

I knew soon as I started reading your original comment it was him. There's only one Paisting lol. I read 90% of his thread which on the CC competition forum(2+2) a bit over a year ago now don't remember all the exact details but you're likely not wrong. As sick a sense humor as I can have at times I found/find that thread rather depressing after awhile of reading. I tried at first to help and give advice beating 2nl isn't that hard it really ain't. Quite an amazing read that thread to be.

I'd bet $100 easy and win that Paisting could even beat play money 40k or fold from 20+ years ago on pokerstars. Some will laugh when I say that but I know better play money players from 20 years ago then Paisting is a real money player today. <----to me this is the saddest part of all.

Cheers!!!

 

[Risto234]

Daniel N. loosing 2M in a year.

So how exactly did this shocked and/or saddened you

 

[happywheels]

cookie clicker I am overjoyed to be able to participate in this activity. I was able to gain a great deal of knowledge from the most influential members of the community as well as from those who possessed the most brilliant minds, and there were also endless opportunities for networking, code sprints, and casual chat.

 

[Bummy]

I was once shocked for a long time, playing back in 2016 in a $300 freeroll with 10,000 participants, the game registered 3 pro pokerstars players at the time. And the most interesting thing is that only 1 reached the prize money. І was playing at a table with one of them and he then raised his pot pretty quickly and was moved to another table.

 

[Wega85]

when I go to casino and watch ppl just throwing money away it does saddens me