Dealer miss deal....give me your thoughts

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Rules state it shouldn't be dead so i don't understand why people are arguing the rule on that he even pulled up the rule for you guys.
 
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Crummy where in Ohio are you and what card room were you in???
 
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I never really thought about this as I don't play live. I do think the house should have given you both some type of comp.

I know this is going to sound strange to people who don't play live, but a situation like this really isn't that big of a deal.

Absolutely, as dealers we do our level best to make the game run as quickly, smoothly and fairly as possible. But mistakes will happen from time to time, and as long as the solutions to them are consistent then we all just get on with life.

This is really the equivalent to, say, getting disconnected while you're playing online. Would it happen in a perfect world? No. But there are protections and procedures in place for it, it's treated the same way for everyone and afterwards you just pick up where you left off.
 
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Nope, they shouldn't be mucked. The rule says the deck should be reconstituted "in as fair a manner as possible" and that can't be done if those cards are mucked.

Awesome... Thanks Oz!

I never really thought about this as I don't play live. I do think the house should have given you both some type of comp.

I wouldn't go that far, even if it were a situation where it had to be considered a "dead hand".

Crummy where in Ohio are you and what card room were you in???

To state, I'm not dissing the card club because I love to play there and am going back, however I'll PM you the name of the club.
 
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yep

most of the casinos i play at they would have restarted the hand and split the pot allthough the dealer dont sound so pro to drop the pack lol
 
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Personally I think we should have gotten our chips back and moved on... I've been in this type of situation before in a casino and that is how they delt with it. However it is their house and I wasn't about to argue their ruling.... I'm fine with the fact that I lost the pot... I really don't know what the result would have been if they didn't screw up.

Didn't the player with A rag have the better hand? How do you know you would have won the pot if the dealer didn't knock the cards over?

When a situation usually happens where I play, the dealer reshuffles the cards in the deck. This is also done if the Delaer reveals the turn or river card before betting was completed.
 
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Oh snap.. What yall got to say to that?.. I dont have shit to say because i feel pwned already

Tell em OZ

I agree though unfortunate, the solution was accurate.

I can't help but compare the situation to the fact that when we play on the Full Tilt site, we endure a similar situation with every hand we play. What I mean by this is the fact that on Full Tilt the cards are continuously shuffled during the course of the hand, on every hand. So basically if you wait 5 seconds or 6 seconds to call the post flop bet, the turn card will be a different card.

Freaky but true.

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most of the casinos i play at they would have restarted the hand and split the pot allthough the dealer dont sound so pro to drop the pack lol

Well then most of the casinos you play in are not playing by the rules!!!
 
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Well then most of the casinos you play in are not playing by the rules!!!

^ this.

Of course, one of the "fun" (using the term very loosely here) things about poker is there is no one hard and fast set of rules for the game. Even given that though, splitting the pot and restarting the hand is a pretty horrible decision in this situation, I'd be fascinated to hear the reasoning behind it...
 
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Didn't the player with A rag have the better hand? How do you know you would have won the pot if the dealer didn't knock the cards over?

After the flop I was ahead.... something like 56% to 44%. I don't know if I would have won or not, but there was a chance, just as there was after the reshuffle.... Just didn't fall my way.
 
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