Any 2 suited cards

IrishDave

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Not sure what is happening lately but people seem to be playing any 2 suited cards regardless of position or blinds. I was fairly deep in a UB SNG where the blinds were at 100/200 and I was on the button with KK. I pushed a 1000 chip raise and had one caller that had limped in. The flop came K-9-2 rainbow giving me a set of kings. The limper checked and I bet allin - he called. Turn and river were runner-runner spades and limper turned over the 8-5 of spades for a flush.

This has been happening so often lately that I'm just about ready to quit poker as it's no longer a game of skill - just throw your money in the pot and play showdown. On a happier note, I survived one of these any 2 card flushes earlier in the day and won a 45 seat SNG on Stars. The limper had 6-3 of hearts and I had A-J of hearts - a little justice...
 
IrishDave

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It was $5, 30 seat. However, I've played $25 buyins that folks do the same thing. I actually keep track of how my 2 suited cards would come out and it's not very good so I guess I'm just not lucky...
 
twizzybop

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I hear you dave.. but that is the nature of the beast.. Flush is supposed to happen 1:6 and as of lately people are falling in love with sooooted cards.
I think here on the east coast, new players are coming online. Indoors cause its warmer and something to do. So they think and love the flush happening..

Other then that I can't think why people call for the flush especially with low suited cards. I love the King,2 suited, A,3 suited.. or Q,5 suited. Could also be something in the drinking water, who knows.
 
IrishDave

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I will limp in with K-x and A-x suited myself on the off chance I flop a flush. I would never call a big bet with 2 suited rags unless I was shortstacked and had too. I guess folks see it on TV and figure if it's good enough for the pros, it's good enough for me. Makes it hard to play a premium hand when you have to be wary of 8-5 suited though...
 
twizzybop

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Ooops should say I love the King,2 suited, A,3 suited.. or Q,5 suited.
callers as well.. I only limp in with the ace or on occasion the king
 
twizzybop

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Hehe you mean something like this dave??

Table: 4492396 (real money) Seat #7 is the dealer
Seat 1 - BELLA2003 ($1500 in chips)
Seat 2 - FORDADORE ($1470 in chips)
Seat 3 - IBINOSAMA ($1260 in chips)
Seat 4 - TWIZZYBOP ($1770 in chips)
Seat 5 - AUSSIE63 ($1380 in chips)
Seat 6 - DIESELPOWER ($1755 in chips)
Seat 7 - MY2002CRF450 ($1545 in chips)
Seat 8 - PANAMAJAY ($1500 in chips)
Seat 9 - GMONEY411 ($1320 in chips)
PANAMAJAY - Posts small blind $15
GMONEY411 - Posts big blind $30
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to TWIZZYBOP [Qc Ah]
BELLA2003 - Folds
FORDADORE - Folds
IBINOSAMA - Folds
TWIZZYBOP - Raises $270 to $270
AUSSIE63 - Calls $270
DIESELPOWER - Folds
MY2002CRF450 - Raises $540 to $540
PANAMAJAY - Folds
GMONEY411 - Folds
TWIZZYBOP - Calls $270
AUSSIE63 - Calls $270
*** FLOP *** [7c Qs 6c]
TWIZZYBOP - Checks
AUSSIE63 - Checks
MY2002CRF450 - Checks
*** TURN *** [7c Qs 6c] [7h]
TWIZZYBOP - All-In $1230
AUSSIE63 - All-In $840
MY2002CRF450 - All-In $1005
TWIZZYBOP - returned ($225) : not called
*** RIVER *** [7c Qs 6c 7h] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TWIZZYBOP - Shows [Qc Ah] (Two Pairs, queens and sevens)
AUSSIE63 - Shows [Jd 7d] (Three of a kind, sevens)
MY2002CRF450 - Shows [Jh Js] (Two Pairs, jacks and sevens)
TWIZZYBOP Collects $330 from side pot-1
AUSSIE63 Collects $4185 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($4515:$4185,$330)
Board [7c Qs 6c 7h 3h]
Seat 1: BELLA2003 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: FORDADORE Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: IBINOSAMA Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: TWIZZYBOP won Total ($330) All-In HI:($330) with Two Pairs, queens and sevens [Qc Ah - B:Qs,P:Qc,B:7h,B:7c,P:Ah]
Seat 5: AUSSIE63 won Total ($4185) All-In HI:($4185) with Three of a kind, sevens [Jd 7d - B:7h,P:7d,B:7c,B:Qs,P:Jd]
Seat 6: DIESELPOWER Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: MY2002CRF450 (dealer) HI:lost with Two Pairs, jacks and sevens [Jh Js - P:Js,P:Jh,B:7h,B:7c,B:Qs]
Seat 8: PANAMAJAY (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: GMONEY411 (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
 
Stick66

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To call those kind of preflop raises with J7 is normally suicide. It worked this time but won't the majority of the time. Hope you put this guy on your buddy list so you can play him again and cash in on all the times this kind of play fails in the future.
 
robwhufc

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IrishDave said:
Not sure what is happening lately but people seem to be playing any 2 suited cards regardless of position or blinds. I was fairly deep in a UB SNG where the blinds were at 100/200 and I was on the button with KK. I pushed a 1000 chip raise and had one caller that had limped in. The flop came K-9-2 rainbow giving me a set of kings. The limper checked and I bet allin - he called. Turn and river were runner-runner spades and limper turned over the 8-5 of spades for a flush.
Dave, was this pokerstars? If so, can you post the hand history - i'd love to look up your opponents stats on the tournament director site Tenbob put me on to!

I get these bad beats once in a blue moon, but not all the time - that was an absolute peach though!
 
robwhufc

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Ultimate Bet will also send hand histories to your email (so I believe) and I think may be compatible with tournament director.
 
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This has happened to me many times... its verry frustrating!
I play mostly live games at my local casino. My problem is i play limit holdem. I love the game but when ppl play junk, and win on a lucky runner runner, aginst your ligit made hand. its a huge kick in the balls. :( But i have found that if i can stay focused and stick it out and play to the best of my ability I'll end up bustin thoes kind of ppl in the end.
 
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All you need is the players poker room name, and the site name. Put it in and BOOM, got him. TR tracks prima sites, UB, Pokerroom, Stars and Party. I have great fun with this little gem.
 
robwhufc

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tenbob said:
All you need is the players poker room name, and the site name. Put it in and BOOM, got him. TR tracks prima sites, UB, Pokerroom, Stars and Party. I have great fun with this little gem.
Me too - i presumed everyone was defaulted to K and A (i'm K under pokerstars and A under Paradise, presumably due to my Big Buck win months ago) but i've seen 3's and 4's amongst my opponents (not surprising considering thier play.
 
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Its just a pity Rob that it dosnt track single table sit and go's, which i play the vast majority of the time. But i figured initially that everyone was an Ace or King, but this one lets you see how much money the majority of people on-line are losing !. Click on random, some of the stats are hilarious,
 
IrishDave

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Checked this morning and I made Ace at Stars. Haven't looked at any other sites as I play most of the tournies at Stars and a few at Fulltilt...
 
robwhufc

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IrishDave said:
Checked this morning and I made Ace at Stars. Haven't looked at any other sites as I play most of the tournies at Stars and a few at Fulltilt...
Dave, if you're an Ace after playing a number of tournaments, then why are you considering packing in poker (again ;))? You're obviuosly having some success so you must be either;

1) A remarkably talented player who is able to overcome continously woeful bad luck and still have success at the poker tables.

or

2) Over-exaggerating how "unlucky" you actually are.
 
IrishDave

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We all play poker for different reasons and mine is not for a source of income but rather as a hobby. I find the frustration of dealing with the idiots takes much of the fun out of the game. Yes, I have some success and win one now and again, but for every one I win there are 3-4 others I could have won except for the terrible play (and great luck) of some of the online players.

Nothing is more frustrating than playing a tourney well and losing to an idiot that shouldn't have been in the hand in the first place. When the frustration overcomes the enjoyment, it's time for a change. Actually took a break from hold'em most of the weekend and played some PL draw which was very enjoyable...
 
robwhufc

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But conversely you probably wouldn't have won half of the games you did without a bit of luck somewhere. I just laugh when I get done by a huge suckout, there's no point getting frustrated.

You've got to get the hand history for the UB one (and post it)!
 
~~Shelynn~~

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I agree with you Dave I play for enjoyment and to relax. Have won several small tourneys last few days won several SNG's $2 and then won 2 $25 ones,tickled me to death. I take the money I get and open an account where we might be playing next at,so it's not wasted and have some left over to keep playing. Couldn't make a living at it,would be on the soup line! LOL
 
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You'll never shake all the idiots, but to be sure, the quality of the play is better as you go up in limits. If you don't believe it, just go to the lobby and see what percentage of players are seeing the flop. 30-40% higher limits, 60-80% at the micro limits. They've got to be folding something right? In the higher limit games, preflop raises eliminate the weaker hands, and natural selection takes care of the weaker players. Playing at a .05/.10 table or a $5.00 SnG you're up against players who either don't know any better, don't care, or just think they can get away with it because nobody's raising. My recommendation to any good player is to skip over the micro limits. It seems counter intuitive, but I really believe you have a better chance of winning which i find more enjoyable. BTW, I lost $60 in one hand last night at a .50/1.00 table with a full house to some guy who chased 2 outs to the river against 2 pot sized raises, so it still happens. Go figure.
 
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I do it as a hobby to, i like playing no-limit and i agree with Shelynn, I would be eating bread and water if i did this as a job, Doyle Brunson claims that small suited connectors can really bust someone IF you get a good flop. I have no luck with them, and when ive been way ahead in chips ive tried playing these hands but dont seem to get anything on the flop, so i fold. Maybe other do good with suited connectors but i dont.
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