is 6 bb per 100 hands good profit?

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30k hands would be a good sample size to determine if your winrate is sustainable.

To put that figure in perspective.. People often report playing 4.5K hands in a day multi-tabling.
 
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man, this thread reminds me how much easier the games used to be

30k hands would be a good sample size to determine if your winrate is sustainable.

it's really not, to be honest. 30k hands is usually a decent sample for figuring out if you're likely a winning player or a losing player at a limit, but not something to accurately base your winrate off of. to get even close to knowing your winrate, i think you'd probably want 100k hands minimum, 200k would be much better though. since a lot of players move up in limits before they've even played that many, and since the games are constantly changing, having a grasp on your "true" bb/100 at any given time is pretty tough to do imo

a lot of great players have had 30k (and larger) breakeven stretches when it's clearly not indicative of their winrate

bottom line is you should always assume your bb/100, whatever it is, can be improved, that you can improve your game, but if you're steadily winning money over tens of thousands of hands that's pretty good :)
 
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after 20k hands at 1c/2c i was running at 10BB(20bb)/100 so it is sustainable.

after 2k hands at 5c/10c im running at 7.5BB(15bb)/100 and im playing only a slightly adjusted game. So even a small jump in stakes my winrate has been largely efeected.
20K hands is not a meaningful sample size by a long shot. I don't know the numbers off the top of my head, but if you want even 95% confidence after 20K hands @ 10BB, your true winrate will be somewhere between 1BB and 19BB or something.
 
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man, this thread reminds me how much easier the games used to be



it's really not, to be honest. 30k hands is usually a decent sample for figuring out if you're likely a winning player or a losing player at a limit, but not something to accurately base your winrate off of. to get even close to knowing your winrate, i think you'd probably want 100k hands minimum, 200k would be much better though. since a lot of players move up in limits before they've even played that many, and since the games are constantly changing, having a grasp on your "true" bb/100 at any given time is pretty tough to do imo

a lot of great players have had 30k (and larger) breakeven stretches when it's clearly not indicative of their winrate

bottom line is you should always assume your bb/100, whatever it is, can be improved, that you can improve your game, but if you're steadily winning money over tens of thousands of hands that's pretty good :)


Combuboom you never let me down with your insite.:D I couldnt agree more with what is said here and would really like to pick your brain sometime.
 
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