Win Rate - What is Reasonable?

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According to an on-line pro, you should typically win in 20 of 30 sessions (using his coaching of course). I typically play 5/10nl on poker stars. I try to play using the standard preflop and 3 bet ranges, I understand position and try not to do too many stupid things. During a typical 30 session run I will win about 8, break even (which feels like a win) about 10 and lose 12. After 2 years of play I am up so it really is cheap entertainment but I wonder if I am doing something wrong.
What is a normal win rate?
 
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Hey there,

Winrate shouldn't be expressed that way.
You take bb/100hands or $/hour.
Since bb/100hands is more universal it is the most common used way to express your income, or outcome. ;)

The lower your winning bb/100 is, the more variance plays a roll. The chance of losing over a long period of time is quite immens if you are a 2-3bb/100h winning player.
I would prefer playing NL5 with 10bb/100h over NL10 with 5bb/100h. I wouldn't play with a lower winrate than 5bb/100.

I would consider 5-15bb/100 a normal winrate at the micros.

Greetings
 
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Hey there,

Winrate shouldn't be expressed that way.
You take bb/100hands or $/hour.
Since bb/100hands is more universal it is the most common used way to express your income, or outcome. ;)

The lower your winning bb/100 is, the more variance plays a roll. The chance of losing over a long period of time is quite immens if you are a 2-3bb/100h winning player.
I would prefer playing NL5 with 10bb/100h over NL10 with 5bb/100h. I wouldn't play with a lower winrate than 5bb/100.

I would consider 5-15bb/100 a normal winrate at the micros.

Greetings
Thanks for the reply. According to PS my winrate was 7bb/100h for 2023. I am now tracking my winrate for each session.
 
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Just focus on bb/100 as said above. 7bb/100 is a decent rate.

The idea of winning 20 of 30 sessions is just bizarre as it depends how long your sessions are, how many tables, how aggressive the games are etc.
 
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Thanks for the reply. According to PS my winrate was 7bb/100h for 2023. I am now tracking my winrate for each session.

That's a nice rate. If it's all at the same level you might want consider moving up. It's bordeline though, as you'd obviously expect that to decrease a bit at the next level up.

If you're happy where you are then stay there, doing well! Keep up the good work.
 
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