Stu_Ungar
Legend
Silver Level
It dosent matter how good your hand is.. just how tight their 3-bet range is.
If I told you my 3-bet range was just AA would you still look at QQ and say '3rd best hand.. I have to shove!'
At 10NL there are a very very large group of players who 3-bet only AA/KK and maybe AK
QQ is behind this range.
Until a player's range is around 5-6% hands like QQ/JJ do not fair all that well.
S93
Legend
Silver Level
Actualy against a 2.6% range QQ is favorite and with the dead money that allready in the pot after a raise and a 3bet stacking of can never be a big mistake.
Jurn8
Legend
Silver Level
we are over 150 hands which means for our 3bet % has no where near any relevance.
I cant believe how you are finding folds vs fish here wtf!
Stu_Ungar
Legend
Silver Level
I dont know where you play 10NL.. but most of the people I have any more than 2K hands on (at 10NL) have 3-bet %s of under 3%.
Most of the time its unusual to see a 3-bet figure >0!
I play FR.. maybe this differs to 6-max.
Stu_Ungar
Legend
Silver Level
I know what you are saying but you would need a large sample to make a decision this accurate. The 5-6% figure denotes some range wider than AA/KK/AK
a 2.6% range could more easily be a player playing AA/KK/AK and just getting delt KK twice in a row!
Jurn8
Legend
Silver Level
i played 10nl 8 months ago at stars
Jurn8
Legend
Silver Level
a persons 3bet range isnt simply the top 2.6% of hands or top 5/6% of hands.
we have 37% equity vs AA/KK/AK aswell if he has them w.e. but not 4betting here is bad IMO + we have fold equity vs these dudes.
I saw people stacking JJ,AQ,10s,AJ all other broadway combo's and Ax kinda hands when I played 10nl.
pantin007
member
Silver Level
bubbasbestbabe
Suckout Queen
Silver Level
10nl is like the old west. You don't know who is behind that gun, a greenhorn or a gunslinger.
1. What do you do if villain is a 12/8/2? SuperNit, call and reevaluate on flop, i.e.set mining.
2. What do you do if villain is a 29/14/1? Reraise, call a shove with fingers crossed.
3. What do you do if villain is a 38/18/2? Call and play this sucker for all that his chip chasing ass will handle.
4. What do you do if you have no reads on villian? Call and reevaluate on flop.
1. What do you do if villain is a 12/8/2? SuperNit, call and reevaluate on flop, i.e.set mining.
2. What do you do if villain is a 29/14/1? Reraise, call a shove with fingers crossed.
3. What do you do if villain is a 38/18/2? Call and play this sucker for all that his chip chasing ass will handle.
4. What do you do if you have no reads on villian? Call and reevaluate on flop.
