The 'Stand Pat Bluff' in 5 card draw

nateofdeath

nateofdeath

Legend
This may not be the best example of it (in fact its probably sort of the opposite), but i've included one below.

5 card draw is one of the first games i learned to play, and needing a little change from hold 'em, i've been playing the $1 sng's on stars. My question is, does the 'stand pat bluff' work? by that i mean the play in which you discard no cards, regardless of what you have, and then bet as though you were delt a 5 card hand (straight, flush or boat). i've met some people who swear by it playing in these games, and it's one of the few real 'plays' i've noticed in the game. also, as in the example below, is there anything, other then a history of making such plays (and the fact that it's a cheap buy in, as though that were an excuse), which would justify you to make the move that my opponent did in the example below. In a lot of ways i think this game is a cash cow, and i'd be interested in hearing other opinions, strategys, and resources as to where i could find more info. thanks.

-n

pokerstars Game #7960909191: Tournament #40678703, $1.00+$0.10 5 Card Draw Pot Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/01/15 - 22:48:19 (ET)
Table '40678703 1' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: jokerdeb (1020 in chips)
Seat 2: 34DD (2735 in chips)
Seat 3: nateofdeath (1480 in chips)
Seat 4: KRW1962 (1365 in chips)
Seat 5: rickaracka (1195 in chips)
Seat 6: emberkat (1205 in chips)
34DD: posts small blind 15
nateofdeath: posts big blind 30
*** DEALING hands ***
Dealt to nateofdeath [7d 6h 5s 3d 4d]
KRW1962: calls 30
rickaracka: folds
emberkat: raises 30 to 60
jokerdeb: calls 60
34DD: folds
nateofdeath: raises 225 to 285
KRW1962: folds
emberkat: calls 225
jokerdeb: folds
nateofdeath: stands pat on [7d 6h 5s 3d 4d]
emberkat: discards 3 cards
nateofdeath: bets 330
emberkat: raises 590 to 920 and is all-in
nateofdeath: calls 590
*** SHOW DOWN ***
emberkat: shows [Ts 3s Jd Kh Jh] (a pair of Jacks)
nateofdeath: shows [7d 6h 5s 3d 4d] (a straight, Three to Seven)
nateofdeath collected 2515 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2515 | Rake 0
Seat 1: jokerdeb (button) folded before the Draw
Seat 2: 34DD (small blind) folded before the Draw
Seat 3: nateofdeath (big blind) showed [7d 6h 5s 3d 4d] and won (2515) with a straight, Three to Seven
Seat 4: KRW1962 folded before the Draw
Seat 5: rickaracka folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 6: emberkat showed [Ts 3s Jd Kh Jh] and lost with a pair of Jacks
 
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JimboJim

JimboJim

Legend
In my opinion 5 card draw should only be played live. Its a game about tells and with only 2 rounds of betting you will not get them from that.

You would have to use it if you are delt 2 pair, trips , maybe with aces or kings but then it wouldnt be a full bluff. You could probably push a stronger hand out if you have been having a decent run of cards.

Now I havent played 5 draw seriously since 1994 (yes I was 14 years old) but I did really well at it when I went with my grandfather to the poker club.
 
Vasity

Vasity

Enthusiast
I had my first run in with 5 card poker at stars this week...And may I say it was AWSOME. I had A A 4 5 7 in my hand..So I threw 3 cards. ( was on a open table and with 30$ on the table) and to my surprize I got back J,J,J Giving me aces full of jacks. And so I push all-in . 3 people are in the pot. Someone urges the other players to call me. ( they thought I was bluffing because I threw 3 cards) and I was thinking in my head ooo plz plz plz call. And sure enough someone called for 30$ came to a 64$ pot I won with a Fullhouse they were disgusted and went on to tell me it was a 1-5,000 chance that would happen. I like 5 card draw :)
 
Xife

Xife

Guest
I use this bluff at least once in every SNG I do... And it works 9 outta 10 times.. (On B2B network tho .. so many fish.. and the 10th time I did it right into quad aces...)

It's great when you do the stand pat bluff then you actually get a nice hand, stand pat bet out and the guy calls thinking ur bluffing again :D
 
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