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Tomgalusha
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Wanted to hear everyone’s thoughts on playing this set on the flop.
Game- 2-3 holdem spread limit, 300 max bet, 600 max buy in
Casino: Talking Stick AZ
Game is 7 handed with covid plexiglass
Villain is far too loose, raises too often, and way too wide based on his position in most. hands. I am immediately to his left and have been pounding on him all night with 3 bets of $45 to $80 over his open raises of $10 to $15. Only once out of 8 or 9 times did he 4-bet and I had to fold. He calls my 3-bets light every time I isolate him and he bricks the flop and I’ve scooped every pot from him for hours. He is stuck at least $600 (maybe more) and visible frustrated.
Hand in question:
Effective stacks: $600 (I have $800 and have villains $600 covered) also big blind has about $800 as well but this isn’t as important.
Villain open raises to $15 from middle position I call with 2-2 in the cut off, button and small blind fold, big blind calls. 3 way action to the flop and I have position. About $40 in the pot after rake.
Flop: King of spades, four of diamonds, deuce of hearts (K-4-2 rainbow)
Big blind checks, villain checks, and I bet my set of deuces. I bet $15. Big blind check raises to $45, villain calls, and it’s back on me. I ponder whether I should just call and let a turn peel knowing that both my opponents are probably drawing very thin no matter what they hold, or raise and see if at least one or both players will come along with a king or weak draw. I decide with position to flat, and raise any bet on the turn so long it’s not a 3 or 5, since it is possible either opponent could have A3s or A5s for a wheel draw and back door flush draw, or maybe 5-6 suited. Pot is $175
Turn: is Queen of Spades. This brings in a back door spade draw and anyone with K-Q just made top two. Great. Not so great though is the big blind who check raised flop doesn’t follow through and bet. He checks, villian checks. I bet $150 hoping someone has AK, or better yet, KQ, or maybe someone will stick around with A-3 of spades, or A-5 spades (wheel and flush draw), but I am not too optimistic with both players checking. Big blind folds (he says he had AK and folded, but TBH, I think he is full of shit and was probably weaker than that, if he did fold, what a nit). The villian now check raises to $450.. he only has $90 more behind, so I elect to reraise and put him all in. I did consider folding for a millisecond, but felt like I’d be over folding the winner too much of the time in this spot, considering the villain could have AK, KQ, K4suited, or be spazzing out with A3 spades, A5 spades A4 spades A10 spades AJ spades, the last two he would have had to float air on the flop to be betting those on the turn If I am beat by a slow played set of kings or set 4’s then oh well, shit happens. Can’t be folding sets in these spots at these stakes.
River: 9 of clubs pretty much a brick and should not change anything. villain tables Q-Q for a turned set. My set of deuces lose.
So was my flop play to flat the $45 check raise a bad play? Should I have just reraised right there on the flop and most likely have lost both players and the hand would have been over? Can I ever fold to that turn check raise of $300?
It felt like a good spot to trap since the board was fairly dry on the flop and there were not going to be very many bad turn cards, and I was most likely going to be bet into on the turn by the big blind, and the villian would probably call again, and I could then raise both players. Thoughts and feedback greatly appreciated.
Game- 2-3 holdem spread limit, 300 max bet, 600 max buy in
Casino: Talking Stick AZ
Game is 7 handed with covid plexiglass
Villain is far too loose, raises too often, and way too wide based on his position in most. hands. I am immediately to his left and have been pounding on him all night with 3 bets of $45 to $80 over his open raises of $10 to $15. Only once out of 8 or 9 times did he 4-bet and I had to fold. He calls my 3-bets light every time I isolate him and he bricks the flop and I’ve scooped every pot from him for hours. He is stuck at least $600 (maybe more) and visible frustrated.
Hand in question:
Effective stacks: $600 (I have $800 and have villains $600 covered) also big blind has about $800 as well but this isn’t as important.
Villain open raises to $15 from middle position I call with 2-2 in the cut off, button and small blind fold, big blind calls. 3 way action to the flop and I have position. About $40 in the pot after rake.
Flop: King of spades, four of diamonds, deuce of hearts (K-4-2 rainbow)
Big blind checks, villain checks, and I bet my set of deuces. I bet $15. Big blind check raises to $45, villain calls, and it’s back on me. I ponder whether I should just call and let a turn peel knowing that both my opponents are probably drawing very thin no matter what they hold, or raise and see if at least one or both players will come along with a king or weak draw. I decide with position to flat, and raise any bet on the turn so long it’s not a 3 or 5, since it is possible either opponent could have A3s or A5s for a wheel draw and back door flush draw, or maybe 5-6 suited. Pot is $175
Turn: is Queen of Spades. This brings in a back door spade draw and anyone with K-Q just made top two. Great. Not so great though is the big blind who check raised flop doesn’t follow through and bet. He checks, villian checks. I bet $150 hoping someone has AK, or better yet, KQ, or maybe someone will stick around with A-3 of spades, or A-5 spades (wheel and flush draw), but I am not too optimistic with both players checking. Big blind folds (he says he had AK and folded, but TBH, I think he is full of shit and was probably weaker than that, if he did fold, what a nit). The villian now check raises to $450.. he only has $90 more behind, so I elect to reraise and put him all in. I did consider folding for a millisecond, but felt like I’d be over folding the winner too much of the time in this spot, considering the villain could have AK, KQ, K4suited, or be spazzing out with A3 spades, A5 spades A4 spades A10 spades AJ spades, the last two he would have had to float air on the flop to be betting those on the turn If I am beat by a slow played set of kings or set 4’s then oh well, shit happens. Can’t be folding sets in these spots at these stakes.
River: 9 of clubs pretty much a brick and should not change anything. villain tables Q-Q for a turned set. My set of deuces lose.
So was my flop play to flat the $45 check raise a bad play? Should I have just reraised right there on the flop and most likely have lost both players and the hand would have been over? Can I ever fold to that turn check raise of $300?
It felt like a good spot to trap since the board was fairly dry on the flop and there were not going to be very many bad turn cards, and I was most likely going to be bet into on the turn by the big blind, and the villian would probably call again, and I could then raise both players. Thoughts and feedback greatly appreciated.