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hello everybody, I'm glad to write my first post here!
Recently I started to spend a lot of time learning more advanced NL Hold'em Poker. My 3 year (optimistic) dream is to play High-Stakes NL Cash-Game.
I've watched about every coaching videos:
Old School:
I've came on an article wrote by Phil Ivey: he tells that he never readed any poker book, and that he learned through experience, trial & error, and he advices the readers to start thinking by themselves. Same goes for self-taught Patrick Antonius.
I was already thinking about this: of course trying to create your own style could make you loose at the beginning, but you must know that Phil Ivey was a loosing player for 2 years at his beginning, untill he perfected his thinking process and evolved to his unique style. Same goes for durrrr who clearly doesn't use "standard book strategy" and developed his own style.
After reading this article I decided to start my little revolution, and I started thinking by myself (of course I learned some stuffs in book/videos, I don't reject everything).
And I started to drop from 4-tabling 6max to 1-tabling to test my new thinking process.
My pfr/vpip is now around the 30/40 (clearly LAG), and I feel like I'm truly exploiting people on the table. My winrate is way bigger, my ability to read is way better and I can make advanced tricky play that really disturb people. More than just identifying betting patterns, I can now feel the table gameflow (table trying to adapt to me, people that are starting to tilt and getting mad on me). I feel like I'm playing real poker and I really enjoy it, it's fun! .
I stopped using pokertracker HUD too because I just understood that it prevent me from making optimal read. I've a feeling that the gameflow of the table can give you the possibility to read people who change gears and adapt on you really fast, and you can adapt your game consequently. With a HUD you rely too much on the pfr/vpip stats and you make your read mostly with it, wich doesn't let you read people who change gears fast. It has been said that Phil Ivey is impressive because he adapts faster than anyone on the table, and as you guess, he doesn't use HUD and fancy stuffs.
I've tried with 2-tabling and the ability to read players and table gameflow is still perfect.
I've tried with 3-tabling and 4-tabling, and I feel that I just can't play my perfect new LAG game, I can still identify betting pattern, but i'm loosing the ability to read the table gameflow, feeling people who start to go on tilt or who start to adapt/make play on me. I can almost do it with 3 tables, but I start making some mistakes and my winrate is not as good, and I just can't do it with 4 tables, I have to tighten up and I don't enjoy it anymore because I feel that I miss some spots where I could extract more money and abuse players.
I know that some regulars are mass-multitabling 12+ but I don't want to grind 0.50/1$ for years, winning some money with rakeback. I prefer to play few tables and progress so that i'll be able to play in the 25$/50$ in one year, wich will give me more money at the end and make me a better player.
What do you think about this minimal-tabling idea? How many tables is optimal for your own style of play (LAG/TAG/Smart Maniac/Whatever)?
PRO & CONS?
Recently I started to spend a lot of time learning more advanced NL Hold'em Poker. My 3 year (optimistic) dream is to play High-Stakes NL Cash-Game.
I've watched about every coaching videos:
- BlueFirePoker (Phil Galfond, DrGiggy)
- DeucesCracked (BaluagWhale, Foxwoodfiends, other good stuff)
- LeggoPoker (aejones)
- Pokersavvy (Ansky)
- I didn't like CardRunners, it's quantity over quality
Old School:
- Super System (good)
- Sklansky, Ed Miller (didn't like them, too theoritical)
- Harrington on Cash-Games, Professional No-Limit Hold'em (ok)
- Memoirs of Aejones (very good)
- Easy Game - BalugaWhale (very good)
- Poker Puzzle - Improva, (good)
- Bobbofitos (good)
- Let there be range - Cole South (didn't like it)
I've came on an article wrote by Phil Ivey: he tells that he never readed any poker book, and that he learned through experience, trial & error, and he advices the readers to start thinking by themselves. Same goes for self-taught Patrick Antonius.
I was already thinking about this: of course trying to create your own style could make you loose at the beginning, but you must know that Phil Ivey was a loosing player for 2 years at his beginning, untill he perfected his thinking process and evolved to his unique style. Same goes for durrrr who clearly doesn't use "standard book strategy" and developed his own style.
After reading this article I decided to start my little revolution, and I started thinking by myself (of course I learned some stuffs in book/videos, I don't reject everything).
And I started to drop from 4-tabling 6max to 1-tabling to test my new thinking process.
My pfr/vpip is now around the 30/40 (clearly LAG), and I feel like I'm truly exploiting people on the table. My winrate is way bigger, my ability to read is way better and I can make advanced tricky play that really disturb people. More than just identifying betting patterns, I can now feel the table gameflow (table trying to adapt to me, people that are starting to tilt and getting mad on me). I feel like I'm playing real poker and I really enjoy it, it's fun! .
I stopped using pokertracker HUD too because I just understood that it prevent me from making optimal read. I've a feeling that the gameflow of the table can give you the possibility to read people who change gears and adapt on you really fast, and you can adapt your game consequently. With a HUD you rely too much on the pfr/vpip stats and you make your read mostly with it, wich doesn't let you read people who change gears fast. It has been said that Phil Ivey is impressive because he adapts faster than anyone on the table, and as you guess, he doesn't use HUD and fancy stuffs.
I've tried with 2-tabling and the ability to read players and table gameflow is still perfect.
I've tried with 3-tabling and 4-tabling, and I feel that I just can't play my perfect new LAG game, I can still identify betting pattern, but i'm loosing the ability to read the table gameflow, feeling people who start to go on tilt or who start to adapt/make play on me. I can almost do it with 3 tables, but I start making some mistakes and my winrate is not as good, and I just can't do it with 4 tables, I have to tighten up and I don't enjoy it anymore because I feel that I miss some spots where I could extract more money and abuse players.
I know that some regulars are mass-multitabling 12+ but I don't want to grind 0.50/1$ for years, winning some money with rakeback. I prefer to play few tables and progress so that i'll be able to play in the 25$/50$ in one year, wich will give me more money at the end and make me a better player.
What do you think about this minimal-tabling idea? How many tables is optimal for your own style of play (LAG/TAG/Smart Maniac/Whatever)?
PRO & CONS?
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