this hand crushed my tournament

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younggun03

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i know i misplayed this hand but i cant pinpoint exactly what i did wrong let me know what ya think(i placed 5th out of 540 for $816)
thanx, younggun03


full tilt poker Game #4153641634: $9,000 Guarantee (30979255), Table 21 - 2500/5000 Ante 600 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:13:44 ET - 2007/11/12
Seat 3: opt king (13,468)
Seat 4: gaelicgalactico (147,470)
Seat 5: younggun03 (118,144)
Seat 8: Demonfrost (381,225)
Seat 9: BlGGIE SMALLS (149,693)
opt king antes 600
gaelicgalactico antes 600
younggun03 antes 600
Demonfrost antes 600
BlGGIE SMALLS antes 600
Demonfrost posts the small blind of 2,500
BlGGIE SMALLS posts the big blind of 5,000
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to younggun03 [9h Qh]
opt king folds
gaelicgalactico folds
younggun03 calls 5,000
Demonfrost calls 2,500
BlGGIE SMALLS checks
*** FLOP *** [2d Kd 6s]
Demonfrost checks
BlGGIE SMALLS checks
younggun03 checks
*** TURN *** [2d Kd 6s] [Jh]
Demonfrost checks
BlGGIE SMALLS bets 10,000
younggun03 has 15 seconds left to act
younggun03 raises to 30,000
Demonfrost folds
BlGGIE SMALLS calls 20,000
*** RIVER *** [2d Kd 6s Jh] [9d]
BlGGIE SMALLS checks
JaCk09 (Observer): cmon opt
younggun03 has 15 seconds left to act
younggun03 bets 35,000
BlGGIE SMALLS calls 35,000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
younggun03 shows [9h Qh] a pair of Nines
BlGGIE SMALLS shows [7c Ks] a pair of Kings
BlGGIE SMALLS wins the pot (148,000) with a pair of Kings
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 148,000 | Rake 0
Board: [2d Kd 6s Jh 9d]
Seat 3: opt king folded before the Flop
Seat 4: gaelicgalactico folded before the Flop
Seat 5: younggun03 (button) showed [9h Qh] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 8: Demonfrost (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 9: BlGGIE SMALLS (big blind) showed [7c Ks] and won (148,000) with a pair of Kings
 
OzExorcist

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5th out of 540 is nothing to be sneezed at, nice work.

I'd say limping the button was a mistake. Your hand was probably good enough for a raise in that position, especially with the table short-handed.
 
reglardave

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Raising on the turn, with a gitshot? The call should have sent up a smoke signal right there. And then betting out on the river with just 3rd pair? And you want to know where you went wrong?:confused:
 
aliengenius

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pretty much horrible play on all streets....
 
blankoblanco

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you kind of did the opposite of what you should have done on every street

raise pre
bet flop majority of time (you're in only with the two blinds, easy for you to rep a K, unlikely they have any pair)
fold turn because your flop play makes it impossible for you to rep anything
check river
 
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  • preflop: bet, might have won the pot there
  • flop: if called, c-bet the flop. You get called.
  • turn: When they lead on the turn, you fold. You have nothing! Drawing to 4 outs for gut-shot. The other "outs" (q and 9) are very questionable(as it turned out to be the case).
  • river: If somehow you arrive to the river, definitely check behind. So many hands beat you that it is -EV to bet. It is unlikely a worse hand will call you, yet most better hands would.
 
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younggun03

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response from younggun03

let u guys understand i wasnt thinking i had the best hand. i was clearly bluffing. after reading all the advice i would say i misplayed the flop and river. i shoulda raised the flop and took it down right there. on the flop i could of bet to pick it up but i didnt. on the turn i raised trying to bluff and represent a strong jack, a strong king which i slowplayed on flop because there was no draws on board or a set i slowplayed. Now the river was terrible, let me add the guy called me immediately with no hesitation on the turn when i raised. therefore he didnt have a 2 pair or a set.(he would of thought for a second with that type of hand for how he should play it). i should of checked or pushed all in knowing he wasnt that strong. I think i was so excited to win the tournament i didnt take the time to play my best.
thanx alot for all ur thoughts, younggun03
 
arahel_jazz

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Fold pre-flop.
But, because your limp was good enough to see the flop, I would have bailed when the King showed and no flush draw in sight.
 
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I think the River was the major mistake here but as you said it was just a bluff and unfortunatlly didnt work this time. Maybe you had been playing in such a way that he thought you bluffed a lot so was confident with his pair. Was you very agressive before this as how you played previous hands may of led to him making this call against you.
 
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jeffred1111

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Turn raise is horrible and commits a lot of chips into the pot while you have very little at stake (limped preflop, checked flop). Since three people saw the turn, the chances of someone having a pair now are great. I can understand that you wanted to take away the pot but this isn't a smart move by any means if you didn't raise preflop because the two other guys could have anything. Getting called in this spot means that you should have shut down on the river UI to the nuts. I might bet a Q on the river but no way am I bluffing with third pair after being called on my turn raise: this is a play that will never work and that is why you got crippled and lost.

Agaisnt one opponent, I might like the turn raise after checking the flop, against three it is very meh since you are getting called way more often.
 
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Nothing wrong with the ocassional bluff. But it seems like you didn't really think this bluff through when you were executing it. First, you should have raised preflop. Q9 suited is in the top 40% of all hands so it's not a hopeless hand. And you did your bluff on the turn, after he already bet you raised him. Not too bad, he could have had a weak jack, or a pair of 6s which he would have folded. After he called your raise on the turn though, you should have just given up on your bluff, you've been caught. Just check it down on the river and don't try to bluff again.
 
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