Folding QQ Bad fold preflop?

[swannymojo]

I'm curious to know yalls thoughts on this hand. The villian who 4-bet is very very loose and has made some curious bet sizes.

After 3 betting qq out of the small blind i laid it down facing a 4 bet that if called would give the villain barely more than one pot size bet in his stack and i'd face a very difficult spot should i call the preflop bet. Those are my thoughts..

here's the hand. Super curious to hear yalls thoughts.

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Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Sealy (BB): 89.9 BB (VPIP: 40.63, PFR: 21.88, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 32)
MisterOrange200 (UTG): 52.8 BB (VPIP: 25.53, PFR: 21.28, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)
Tacopounder9 (CO): 43.2 BB (VPIP: 17.95, PFR: 12.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
majkderN (BTN): 48.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
swannymojo (SB): 113.2 BB

swannymojo posts SB 0.5 BB, Sealy posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) swannymojo has Q:diamond: Q:club:

fold, fold, majkderN raises to 2.2 BB, swannymojo raises to 6 BB, Sealy raises to 24 BB, fold, fold

Sealy wins 14.2 BB

 

[Gabe16]

I’m jamming bud. Never folding, not vs an odd lag. If he is a lag every combo of AK does this, possibly JJ or even TT at some frequency. Loose players over value hands like AQs and bluff too.

I think this is an error.

100bb deep I’m jamming so every bit less than that makes it better. I’m not calling to risk seeing an A or K on the flop that enables villain to bluff me of my hand.

 

[777alex777]

your opponent is not nit, you're probably ahead of his 4bet range, so a fold with QQ is weak

 

[bijan777]

In tour or cashgeam
In tour befor addon and still can reby you must go to allin
If in cash you must see flop
But after 4 bet if many hand are in valve fold not bad option

 

[roterdama]

QQ

me on 4bet , put all in! I never fold QQ. but if good turnament and left final table mybee posbl i fold on iff player put all in on my 4 bet! But mybee. beter never fold. 70% always you win.

 

[nenaviju poker]

I would also fold a QQ against a nit player if he gave me 4 bets from him or AA or KK

 

[Pablo22]

With how you have identified the villain, I think you have to go allin preflop.

 

[alannalmeida]

Very professional

Your thoughts seems a kind of professional. I really don`t have to contribuate, but i want to follow the discussion, thanks for post that for us

 

[cs_rlewis]

Yeah his range is pretty wide here.
Cold 4 bets are pretty rare he's probably not doing it with air.
Still have to call or jam

 

[Tuan]

Well, we don't have any stats on him yet, so I think if you decide to 3bet with QQ; we have to have a plan for his 4bet/call. If we face a 4bet, we must call with QQ because it is one of our strong 3bet range; we can't fold here (it's short hand 6-max). In fact, a 5bet jam preflop is okay in my opinion.

 

[pauloandre100]

In my range I never fold QQ + in this situation