Turned set into raising war

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abinferno

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So, I turn a set here after a check around on the flop. What do I do once the raising starts? Villain was 20/2.44/3 after 40 hands.

fulltiltpoker Game #5389637500: Table Lost Mesa - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:44:31 ET - 2008/02/24
Seat 1: Aron Welsh ($0), is sitting out
Seat 2: AAinferno ($200)
Seat 3: sorrymisclick ($222.90)
Seat 4: pos EV ($121.90)
Seat 5: Willtakecash4me ($309.65)
Seat 6: ReCuddjnu ($77.30)
Seat 7: cimba1 ($155.60)
Seat 8: daveaneo ($258.45)
Seat 9: FSUbowl ($29.30)
ReCuddjnu posts the small blind of $1
cimba1 posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AAinferno [4h 4c]
Aron Welsh stands up
daveaneo folds
FSUbowl folds
pride8 sits down
AAinferno calls $2
sorrymisclick folds
pride8 adds $200
pos EV calls $2
Willtakecash4me folds
ReCuddjnu folds
cimba1 checks
*** FLOP *** [Ah 8s Kh]
cimba1 checks
AAinferno checks
pos EV checks
*** TURN *** [Ah 8s Kh] [4s]
cimba1 bets $2
AAinferno raises to $8
pos EV raises to $20
cimba1 folds
AAinferno ??
 
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I put him on AK at best. I just call here. If you do call here that should make him realize you have something big. I then bet big on the turn to re-assure him he's beat or he's an idiot and calls. Then I'm all-in. Maybe I'm beat, but I suck at online pker.

Live I could actually get a read.
 
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I call and see what the river brings if my read says pos EV is not slow playing AA/KK/88 which those stats say is a possibility. Has pos EV bet into a raise before with just a flush draw? If so then I'd push if pos EV didn't have a slow play history.
 
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Well, I thought about calling and seeing the river, but I got greedy and didn't like the draw heavy board, so:

The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AAinferno [4h 4c]
Aron Welsh stands up
daveaneo folds
FSUbowl folds
pride8 sits down
AAinferno calls $2
sorrymisclick folds
pride8 adds $200
pos EV calls $2
Willtakecash4me folds
ReCuddjnu folds
cimba1 checks
*** FLOP *** [Ah 8s Kh]
cimba1 checks
AAinferno checks
pos EV checks
*** TURN *** [Ah 8s Kh] [4s]
cimba1 bets $2
AAinferno raises to $8
pos EV raises to $20
cimba1 folds
AAinferno raises to $69
pos EV raises to $118
AAinferno??
 
WVHillbilly

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Easy call. If you lose to a bigger set, so be it.
 
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pos EV is now committed to the hand and you finish putting him AI and if he has 88/AA/KK or hits his ST8, reload and try again.
 
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AAinferno raises to $198, and is all in
pos EV calls $1.90, and is all in
AAinferno shows [4h 4c]
pos EV shows [8c 8d]
Uncalled bet of $78.10 returned to AAinferno
*** RIVER *** [Ah 8s Kh 4s] [7h]
AAinferno shows three of a kind, Fours
pos EV shows three of a kind, Eights
pos EV wins the pot ($245.80) with three of a kind, Eights

And, i put him in figuring only one conceivable hand he could have can beat me. I'm thinking maybe a limped A8s or A4s, but oh well. I should also add that including this hand, in two days, I have been set over setted three times as well as having my over set one-outed by quads and AA cracked by KK all in preflop.
 
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Whoa there dude, give us a chance before posting the results so fast. Trust me, this hand would have gotten some nice discussin if you left the results out for a day or so. But meh, its done now, youll know for again.

Meh I HATE turned sets, especially when i face resistance. I go into pot controll mode if possible once you get re-raised on the turn, call his raise, call any reasonable river bet. I really dont like stacking off here, AK is NOT IN A DECENT PLAYERS RANGE, that hand always raises PRE-FLOP unless you have specific reads, you can factor in A8/K8, but 88 is the only hand likely playing for stacks here.

Stats would be very useful here.
 
CrackaNACtion

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Yeah but turning the set of 4s i still wouldve bet or prob went allin. i wouldve put him on aq or flush draw!
 
nevadanick

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Pretty weak set against that board to bet the farm. Me? I fold.

Bet the farm regularly? Keep the boxes packed, you'll be moving regularly.
 
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