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Jambo123

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dont usually play these small games but just trying something different, my reads is that he is TAG, also he is multi-tabling about 12 tables so may only be concentrating on big hands.

pokerstars Game #7629096055: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2006/12/27 - 12:00:32 (ET)
Table 'Amalia' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: werner2 ($2.57 in chips)
Seat 3: michiel118 ($2.86 in chips)
Seat 4: jambo227 ($4.26 in chips)
Seat 5: oror ($7.17 in chips)
Seat 6: Diode3 ($2.96 in chips)
Seat 7: FLOPARIS ($1.53 in chips)
Seat 8: GriGri1981 ($4.78 in chips)
Seat 9: z28blue ($1.90 in chips)
michiel118: posts small blind $0.01
jambo227: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jambo227 [8d Jh]
zaxxon23 leaves the table
oror: calls $0.02
Diode3: folds
FLOPARIS: folds
GriGri1981: calls $0.02
z28blue: calls $0.02
werner2: folds
michiel118: calls $0.01
jambo227: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ad 9d 8h]
michiel118: checks
jambo227: checks
oror: checks
GriGri1981: checks
z28blue: checks
*** TURN *** [Ad 9d 8h] [8s]
michiel118: checks
jambo227: bets $0.08
oror: raises $0.20 to $0.28

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zebranky

zebranky

Rock Star
raise...

If he's TAG and in a middle-position, I would naturally place him on the A-face, and re-raise him accordingly.
If he had 2 pair, he should have raised the flop. If he had the 9, he should be folding - if he had a draw (straight or flush), he should be only calling.
It's possible he has the case 8 - but in that case, you've got a good chance of out-kicking him, because ony a K or Q beats you (because an A would give him a boat, and he should be drawing you in - not raising you out - if his hand is already made).

How did it end?
 
Arjonius

Arjonius

Legend
One of the problems with micro-stakes is that players often don't have hands that fit reasonable analysis. It seems pretty likely you're ahead of Ax, but I wouldn't be shocked to see him turn over quite a variety of other hands ranging from the nuts to a stone cold bluff.
 
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Jambo123

Guest
ok, i couldnt see him raising on flush/straight draw, i also couldnt put him on ace/face as i think he would have raised pre flop and bet on the flop, so i came down to 2 hands, he has either limped UTG wi AA or 99 and he has boat, it didnt make sense that he only had AK,AQ or just a 9. I folded ( also dont care that it was only 1/2 cent, trying to always play well no matter the stakes)
 
zebranky

zebranky

Rock Star
ok, i couldnt see him raising on flush/straight draw, i also couldnt put him on ace/face as i think he would have raised pre flop and bet on the flop, so i came down to 2 hands, he has either limped UTG wi AA or 99 and he has boat, it didnt make sense that he only had AK,AQ or just a 9. I folded ( also dont care that it was only 1/2 cent, trying to always play well no matter the stakes)

A good TAG player won't raise with Ax under-the-gun or in Middle position. His goal would be to see the flop for relatively cheap, and hopefully hit at least the top pair. Typically, only Ax in late position should be putting in a raise. On a similar vein, it is unlikely someone UTG will limp with a pair - they want to push people out PF, because their hand is unlikely to improve. Unless he's crazy, an AA will not limp UTG - that would be asking for a bad beat.

Ax is appropriate to limp after the flop UTG - remember, he's early in the action, and a cautious player may check the flop to make sure the later players aren't going to raise him out. He can check, and call/raise if only one person bets on it, but leaves open the "free" fold if the pot is already raised or re-raised by the late players. My gut feeling on this one is he has an A - and the second 8 is forcing him to bet out to gain information on your hand.
 
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Jambo123

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sorry i dont agree that he would limp utg wi AK/AQ especially when he is playing 12 tables but come to think of it i dont see him limping utg with AA. so maybe he did have 9s, in the end i went with my instincts in this one. Maybe another time i would reraise but this time i felt he was real strong,

cheers
 
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