Tenbob Session Pt. 1

zachvac

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Sorry for the amount of time, I've been real busy, haven't even played much poker myself apart from the team games recently, but I've done half of them, only important hands included here. Didn't figure I should include hands where you fold 95o UTG.



*********** # 13 **************
pokerstars Game #15125646511: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/02/07 - 14:54:58 (ET)
Table 'Asios V' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: kwllrr ($115.10 in chips)
Seat 2: potbob ($31 in chips)
Seat 3: tenbob ($100.90 in chips)
Seat 4: ON EMPTY ($96.55 in chips)
Seat 6: EnAmZgYnE1 ($105.60 in chips)
Seat 7: fabianTo ($98.40 in chips)
Seat 8: eunhobae ($105.25 in chips)
Seat 9: MaKiaVeli ($227.70 in chips)
MaKiaVeli: posts small blind $0.50
kwllrr: posts big blind $1
BellyBoyBoy: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [Qd Ad]
potbob: folds
tenbob: raises $3 to $4
ON EMPTY: folds
EnAmZgYnE1: folds
fabianTo: folds
eunhobae: folds
MaKiaVeli: calls $3.50
kwllrr: folds
*** FLOP *** [7c Td 7h]
MaKiaVeli: checks
tenbob: bets $6
MaKiaVeli: folds
tenbob collected $8.55 from pot
tenbob: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9 | Rake $0.45
Board [7c Td 7h]
Seat 1: kwllrr (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: potbob folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: tenbob collected ($8.55)
Seat 4: ON EMPTY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: EnAmZgYnE1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: fabianTo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: eunhobae (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: MaKiaVeli (small blind) folded on the Flop

Standard 4x raise with a premium and cbet on a good board for you (probably didn't hit opponent and you have position)




*********** # 16 **************
PokerStars Game #15125625964: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/02/07 - 14:54:02 (ET)
Table 'Beyer II' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: PsyMaster ($18 in chips)
Seat 2: jan1960 ($48.10 in chips)
Seat 3: MaKiaVeli ($101 in chips)
Seat 4: Haens28 ($97.50 in chips)
Seat 5: HitmanHaydon ($133.75 in chips)
Seat 6: plang08 ($51.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Ben436 ($178.30 in chips)
Seat 9: tenbob ($122.95 in chips)
jan1960: posts small blind $0.50
MaKiaVeli: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [8d 7d]
Haens28: folds
HitmanHaydon: folds
plang08: folds
Ben436: folds
tenbob: calls $1
PsyMaster: folds
jan1960: folds
MaKiaVeli: checks
*** FLOP *** [3d Jh 8c]
MaKiaVeli: checks
tenbob: checks
*** TURN *** [3d Jh 8c] Q♥
MaKiaVeli: checks
tenbob: bets $2
MaKiaVeli: folds
tenbob collected $2.40 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.50 | Rake $0.10
Board [3d Jh 8c Qh]
Seat 1: PsyMaster (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: jan1960 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: MaKiaVeli (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: Haens28 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: HitmanHaydon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: plang08 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Ben436 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: tenbob collected ($2.40)


This is interesting. Not a lot of money at stake but after the flop check you probably have the best hand just against the BB. I may tend to checking
this turn as well, just because this bet simply folds out what we beat and gets calls from what we don't. A check here may induce a bluff on the river
from a worse hand but then we'd have to commit to paying off better hands, which we're doing here already (a call from a better hand or raise and we
can't really continue). You won the hand, and at worse it costs you $2, but I think a check would be better here.




*********** # 17 **************
PokerStars Game #15125614764: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/02/07 - 14:53:31 (ET)
Table 'Beyer II' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: PsyMaster ($18.50 in chips)
Seat 2: jan1960 ($49.10 in chips)
Seat 3: MaKiaVeli ($101 in chips)
Seat 4: Haens28 ($97.50 in chips)
Seat 5: HitmanHaydon ($133.75 in chips)
Seat 6: plang08 ($51.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Ben436 ($178.30 in chips)
Seat 9: tenbob ($121.45 in chips)
BOOGNISH420 leaves the table
PsyMaster: posts small blind $0.50
jan1960: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [9c Ah]
MaKiaVeli: folds
Haens28: folds
HitmanHaydon: folds
plang08: folds
Ben436: folds
tenbob: raises $2 to $3
PsyMaster: folds
jan1960: folds
tenbob collected $2.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.50 | Rake $0
Seat 1: PsyMaster (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: jan1960 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: MaKiaVeli folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Haens28 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: HitmanHaydon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: plang08 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Ben436 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: tenbob (button) collected ($2.50)



Folded around to the button with a pretty good hand, standard raise and you get rewarded with the blinds






*********** # 18 **************
PokerStars Game #15125611384: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/02/07 - 14:53:22 (ET)
Table 'Asios V' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: kwllrr ($115.10 in chips)
Seat 2: potbob ($31 in chips)
Seat 3: tenbob ($100.90 in chips)
Seat 4: ON EMPTY ($96.55 in chips)
Seat 6: EnAmZgYnE1 ($113.60 in chips)
Seat 7: fabianTo ($98.90 in chips)
Seat 8: eunhobae ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 9: MaKiaVeli ($226.70 in chips)
fabianTo: posts small blind $0.50
eunhobae: posts big blind $1
BellyBoyBoy: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [As 9c]
MaKiaVeli: folds
kwllrr: folds
potbob: folds
tenbob: folds
ON EMPTY: folds
EnAmZgYnE1: raises $2 to $3
fabianTo: folds
eunhobae: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [Tc Kh 2s]
eunhobae: checks
EnAmZgYnE1: bets $3
eunhobae: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Tc Kh 2s] 5♦
eunhobae: checks
EnAmZgYnE1: checks
*** RIVER *** [Tc Kh 2s 5d] 4♠
eunhobae: bets $2
EnAmZgYnE1: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
eunhobae: shows [Kc 6c] (a pair of Kings)
EnAmZgYnE1: mucks hand
eunhobae collected $15.75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $16.50 | Rake $0.75
Board [Tc Kh 2s 5d 4s]
Seat 1: kwllrr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: potbob folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: tenbob folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ON EMPTY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: EnAmZgYnE1 (button) mucked [Qc Th]
Seat 7: fabianTo (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: eunhobae (big blind) showed [Kc 6c] and won ($15.75) with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: MaKiaVeli folded before Flop (didn't bet)



Raise wouldn't be horrible here, but with the position you're in, not a bad fold
 
zachvac

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Still Part 1

Too many characters, this is part 2 of part 1:

*********** # 26 **************
PokerStars Game #15125558983: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/02/07 - 14:51:00 (ET)
Table 'Asios V' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: kwllrr ($109.15 in chips)
Seat 2: potbob ($38 in chips)
Seat 3: tenbob ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: ON EMPTY ($98.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Millwood24 ($117.75 in chips)
Seat 6: EnAmZgYnE1 ($110.90 in chips)
Seat 7: fabianTo ($100.90 in chips)
Seat 8: eunhobae ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 9: MaKiaVeli ($226.70 in chips)
tenbob: posts small blind $0.50
ON EMPTY: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [Td Qs]
Millwood24: folds
EnAmZgYnE1: folds
fabianTo: folds
eunhobae: folds
MaKiaVeli: folds
kwllrr: folds
potbob: folds
tenbob: calls $0.50
ON EMPTY: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qc 3c Kc]
tenbob: bets $2
ON EMPTY: folds
tenbob collected $1.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2 | Rake $0.10
Board [Qc 3c Kc]
Seat 1: kwllrr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: potbob (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: tenbob (small blind) collected ($1.90)
Seat 4: ON EMPTY (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Millwood24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: EnAmZgYnE1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: fabianTo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: eunhobae folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: MaKiaVeli folded before Flop (didn't bet)


This is where I wouldn't mind a preflop raise. We're likely to miss the flop and the call shows some weakness preflop. I assume we're not calling
a preflop raise, so we may as well put the bet in preflop. Most of the time we pick it up right here (and we save rake, although that's negligable),
and if we get call we've got a decent enough hand that we could hit the flop. As played it's ok but I still prefer the raise preflop here.





*********** # 31 **************
PokerStars Game #15125539115: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/02/07 - 14:50:07 (ET)
Table 'Asios V' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: kwllrr ($95.50 in chips)
Seat 2: potbob ($51 in chips)
Seat 3: tenbob ($34.80 in chips)
Seat 4: ON EMPTY ($98.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Millwood24 ($117.75 in chips)
Seat 6: EnAmZgYnE1 ($111.90 in chips)
Seat 7: fabianTo ($100.90 in chips)
Seat 8: eunhobae ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 9: MaKiaVeli ($226.70 in chips)
potbob: posts small blind $0.50
tenbob: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [Js 6h]
ON EMPTY: folds
Millwood24: folds
EnAmZgYnE1: calls $1
fabianTo: folds
eunhobae: folds
MaKiaVeli: folds
kwllrr: calls $1
potbob: calls $0.50
tenbob: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jd 9h 7s]
potbob: bets $2
tenbob: folds
EnAmZgYnE1: folds
kwllrr: calls $2
*** TURN *** [Jd 9h 7s] 3♠
potbob: checks
kwllrr: bets $5
potbob: calls $5
*** RIVER *** [Jd 9h 7s 3s] Q♣
potbob: checks
kwllrr: bets $5
potbob: calls $5
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kwllrr: shows [Qd Tc] (a pair of Queens)
potbob: mucks hand
kwllrr collected $26.65 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $28 | Rake $1.35
Board [Jd 9h 7s 3s Qc]
Seat 1: kwllrr (button) showed [Qd Tc] and won ($26.65) with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: potbob (small blind) mucked [Td Th]
Seat 3: tenbob (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: ON EMPTY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Millwood24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: EnAmZgYnE1 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: fabianTo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: eunhobae folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: MaKiaVeli folded before Flop (didn't bet)


This is a good fold, something a lot of people mess up on. People will get married to their top pair not realizing that there are people in preflop
and there could easily be future betting. Lots of strange 2-pair hands are possible as well as sets. As it played out, you actually had the best hand
on the flop, but first off you didn't know that, and second off you had no idea what turn would help any of your opponents, and if an over or an 8
comes, you have no idea what to do. So good fold.


*********** # 35 **************
PokerStars Game #15125517807: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/02/07 - 14:49:10 (ET)
Table 'Asios V' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: kwllrr ($96 in chips)
Seat 2: potbob ($52 in chips)
Seat 3: tenbob ($148.90 in chips)
Seat 4: ON EMPTY ($98.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Millwood24 ($117.75 in chips)
Seat 6: EnAmZgYnE1 ($111.90 in chips)
Seat 7: fabianTo ($100.90 in chips)
Seat 8: eunhobae ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 9: MaKiaVeli ($114.10 in chips)
kwllrr: posts small blind $0.50
potbob: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [3h 3d]
tenbob: calls $1
ON EMPTY: folds
Millwood24: folds
EnAmZgYnE1: folds
fabianTo: folds
eunhobae: folds
MaKiaVeli: raises $4 to $5
kwllrr: folds
potbob: folds
tenbob: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [2h 6h 4s]
tenbob: checks
MaKiaVeli: checks
*** TURN *** [2h 6h 4s] 7♣
tenbob: bets $9
MaKiaVeli: raises $15 to $24
tenbob: raises $119.90 to $143.90 and is all-in
MaKiaVeli: calls $85.10 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [2h 6h 4s 7c] J♠
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tenbob: shows [3h 3d] (a pair of Threes)
MaKiaVeli: shows [2d 2c] (three of a kind, Deuces)
MaKiaVeli collected $226.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $229.70 | Rake $3
Board [2h 6h 4s 7c Js]
Seat 1: kwllrr (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: potbob (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: tenbob showed [3h 3d] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 4: ON EMPTY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Millwood24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: EnAmZgYnE1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: fabianTo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: eunhobae folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: MaKiaVeli (button) showed [2d 2c] and won ($226.70) with three of a kind, Deuces


If you hadn't explained this, I'd be wondering what the hell you were doing here. Apparently you thought you had a set, but really had nothing but a gut
shot straight draw. So as played this is horrible, but I think you already know this. If this were a set though, I really like how you played this.
you slowplay the flop, and because of the check behind you put out an almost pot sized bet. This looks a lot like a steal attempt and will likely get
called by anything decent. If they don't have anything decent you're not getting any money here anyway. Of course first you should learn to read the board ;)
But in the future you can also use this play because they've seen you make a crazy bluff with air.

*********** # 45 **************
PokerStars Game #15125468047: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/02/07 - 14:46:57 (ET)
Table 'Clemence II' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: tenbob ($121.80 in chips)
Seat 2: germ_Don_85 ($30 in chips)
Seat 3: DonChevalier ($136.80 in chips)
Seat 4: Bad_reflex ($113.75 in chips)
Seat 5: tigerwatson ($100.05 in chips)
Seat 6: daniela249 ($99.50 in chips)
Seat 7: goemonthe3rd ($18.50 in chips)
Seat 8: PlayDirty714 ($29.80 in chips)
Huskie76 will be allowed to play after the button
tenbob: posts small blind $0.50
germ_Don_85: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [Tc 9d]
DonChevalier has timed out
DonChevalier: folds
DonChevalier is sitting out
Bad_reflex: folds
tigerwatson: folds
DonChevalier has returned
daniela249: folds
goemonthe3rd: folds
PlayDirty714: folds
tenbob: calls $0.50
germ_Don_85: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qc 2s 9s]
tenbob: bets $2
germ_Don_85: folds
tenbob collected $1.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2 | Rake $0.10
Board [Qc 2s 9s]
Seat 1: tenbob (small blind) collected ($1.90)
Seat 2: germ_Don_85 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: DonChevalier folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Bad_reflex folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: tigerwatson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: daniela249 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: goemonthe3rd folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: PlayDirty714 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

This is practically identical to #26. Same comment, if we're going to bet the flop we should raise preflop instead in my opinion.



*********** # 58 **************
PokerStars Game #15125423756: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/02/07 - 14:44:51 (ET)
Table 'Beyer II' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: PsyMaster ($21 in chips)
Seat 2: jan1960 ($40.60 in chips)
Seat 3: MaKiaVeli ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: Haens28 ($97.50 in chips)
Seat 5: HitmanHaydon ($103.55 in chips)
Seat 6: plang08 ($54 in chips)
Seat 7: Ben436 ($176.10 in chips)
Seat 8: BOOGNISH420 ($40.35 in chips)
Seat 9: tenbob ($104 in chips)
tenbob: posts small blind $0.50
PsyMaster: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [As 8d]
jan1960: folds
MaKiaVeli: folds
Haens28: folds
HitmanHaydon: folds
plang08: folds
Ben436: folds
BOOGNISH420: folds
tenbob: raises $3 to $4
PsyMaster: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [6h Ah 2h]
tenbob: bets $6
PsyMaster: calls $6
*** TURN *** [6h Ah 2h] Q♦
tenbob: bets $11
PsyMaster: calls $11 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [6h Ah 2h Qd] A♣
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tenbob: shows [As 8d] (three of a kind, Aces)
PsyMaster: mucks hand
tenbob collected $39.95 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $42 | Rake $2.05
Board [6h Ah 2h Qd Ac]
Seat 1: PsyMaster (big blind) mucked [Qh Td]
Seat 2: jan1960 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: MaKiaVeli folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Haens28 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: HitmanHaydon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: plang08 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Ben436 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: BOOGNISH420 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: tenbob (small blind) showed [As 8d] and won ($39.95) with three of a kind, Aces

Good play, decent hand with decent position. You hit the flop, the idiot with QT calls the cbet and the all-in after turning 2nd pair.
My one comment here would be the turn bet though. I agree we don't want to check here, we're practically pot committed because of his stack,
and letting the opponent make the decision whether to put it in or not is bad, but I would actually make a smaller bet here. We're committed,
no matter what the river brings we want it all-in, so why not make like another $6 bet on this turn and put it all in on the river?
Not a horrible play here but we are getting FE here that we actually don't want because we're not folding out any better hands

*********** # 61 **************
PokerStars Game #15125405099: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/02/07 - 14:43:58 (ET)
Table 'Beyer II' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: PsyMaster ($21 in chips)
Seat 2: jan1960 ($40.60 in chips)
Seat 3: MaKiaVeli ($103 in chips)
Seat 4: Haens28 ($97.50 in chips)
Seat 5: HitmanHaydon ($103.55 in chips)
Seat 6: plang08 ($54 in chips)
Seat 7: Ben436 ($176.10 in chips)
Seat 8: BOOGNISH420 ($40.85 in chips)
Seat 9: tenbob ($99.90 in chips)
BOOGNISH420: posts small blind $0.50
tenbob: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [Qd Ac]
PsyMaster: folds
jan1960: folds
MaKiaVeli: raises $3 to $4
Haens28: folds
HitmanHaydon: folds
plang08: folds
Ben436: folds
BOOGNISH420: folds
tenbob: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [Ts Td As]
tenbob: bets $6
MaKiaVeli: folds
tenbob collected $8.10 from pot
tenbob: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.50 | Rake $0.40
Board [Ts Td As]
Seat 1: PsyMaster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: jan1960 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: MaKiaVeli folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Haens28 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: HitmanHaydon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: plang08 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Ben436 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: BOOGNISH420 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: tenbob (big blind) collected ($8.10)


preflop toss-up between call and 3-bet. Fine as played, hit the flop and take down the pot. Depending on reads you may want to check-raise here, because
you get more when he bluffs and find out you're beat if called or raised.


*********** # 66 **************
PokerStars Game #15125391923: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/02/07 - 14:43:21 (ET)
Table 'Asios V' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: kwllrr ($87.20 in chips)
Seat 2: potbob ($60.10 in chips)
Seat 3: tenbob ($148.90 in chips)
Seat 4: ON EMPTY ($92.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Millwood24 ($116.25 in chips)
Seat 6: EnAmZgYnE1 ($108.35 in chips)
Seat 7: fabianTo ($96.70 in chips)
Seat 9: MaKiaVeli ($99 in chips)
eunhobae will be allowed to play after the button
MaKiaVeli: posts small blind $0.50
kwllrr: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [As Qc]
potbob: folds
tenbob: raises $3 to $4
ON EMPTY: folds
Millwood24: folds
EnAmZgYnE1: folds
fabianTo: folds
MaKiaVeli: folds
kwllrr: folds
tenbob collected $2.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.50 | Rake $0
Seat 1: kwllrr (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: potbob folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: tenbob collected ($2.50)
Seat 4: ON EMPTY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Millwood24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: EnAmZgYnE1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: fabianTo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: MaKiaVeli (small blind) folded before Flop

Another standard raise with a premium and you take it down preflop.


*********** # 68 **************
PokerStars Game #15125383405: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/02/07 - 14:42:58 (ET)
Table 'Asios V' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: kwllrr ($87.20 in chips)
Seat 3: tenbob ($147.40 in chips)
Seat 4: ON EMPTY ($92.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Millwood24 ($116.25 in chips)
Seat 6: EnAmZgYnE1 ($108.35 in chips)
Seat 7: fabianTo ($97.20 in chips)
Seat 9: MaKiaVeli ($100 in chips)
fabianTo: posts small blind $0.50
MaKiaVeli: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [Qs Ah]
kwllrr: folds
eunhobae joins the table at seat #8
tenbob: raises $3 to $4
ON EMPTY: folds
Millwood24: folds
EnAmZgYnE1: folds
fabianTo: folds
MaKiaVeli: folds
potbob has returned
tenbob collected $2.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.50 | Rake $0
Seat 1: kwllrr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: tenbob collected ($2.50)
Seat 4: ON EMPTY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Millwood24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: EnAmZgYnE1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: fabianTo (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: MaKiaVeli (big blind) folded before Flop

Again, preflop raise with a premium, no action, and you get the pot.



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PokerStars Game #15125346592: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/02/07 - 14:41:14 (ET)
Table 'Clemence II' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: tenbob ($128.30 in chips)
Seat 3: DonChevalier ($142.30 in chips)
Seat 4: Bad_reflex ($97 in chips)
Seat 5: tigerwatson ($100.05 in chips)
Seat 7: goemonthe3rd ($20 in chips)
Seat 8: PlayDirty714 ($26.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Tokuan ($129.70 in chips)
Tokuan: posts small blind $0.50
tenbob: posts big blind $1
germ_Don_85: sits out
daniela249: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [Ad Qd]
DonChevalier: folds
Bad_reflex: calls $1
tigerwatson has timed out
tigerwatson: folds
tigerwatson is sitting out
goemonthe3rd: folds
PlayDirty714: folds
Tokuan: raises $4 to $5
tenbob: calls $4
Bad_reflex: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [9d 4h 8h]
Tokuan: checks
tenbob: checks
Bad_reflex: bets $8
Tokuan: folds
tenbob: folds
Bad_reflex collected $14.25 from pot
Bad_reflex: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15 | Rake $0.75
Board [9d 4h 8h]
Seat 1: tenbob (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: DonChevalier folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Bad_reflex collected ($14.25)
Seat 5: tigerwatson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: goemonthe3rd folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: PlayDirty714 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Tokuan (small blind) folded on the Flop



Well played, no reason to cbet into 2 callers. Just check/fold here.



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PokerStars Game #15125305626: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/02/07 - 14:39:17 (ET)
Table 'Clematis III' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Ialogen ($110.40 in chips)
Seat 2: CRUSH41 ($197.30 in chips)
Seat 3: Ottawa2108 ($114 in chips)
Seat 4: pokekingaris ($94.55 in chips)
Seat 5: jhm26 ($126.40 in chips)
Seat 7: fabianTo ($162.35 in chips)
Seat 8: tenbob ($108.90 in chips)
Seat 9: I_like_me22 ($100.50 in chips)
Ialogen: posts small blind $0.50
CRUSH41: posts big blind $1
resee2929: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [Qc Jd]
Ottawa2108: folds
pokekingaris: calls $1
jhm26: folds
fabianTo: folds
tenbob: calls $1
I_like_me22: folds
Ialogen: calls $0.50
CRUSH41: checks
*** FLOP *** [2d 5d 3s]
Ialogen: checks
CRUSH41: checks
pokekingaris: checks
tenbob: checks
*** TURN *** [2d 5d 3s] 8♣
Ialogen: checks
CRUSH41: checks
pokekingaris: checks
tenbob: checks
*** RIVER *** [2d 5d 3s 8c] 4♥
Ialogen: bets $2
CRUSH41: folds
pokekingaris: calls $2
tenbob: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ialogen: shows [Ah 2h] (a straight, Ace to Five)
pokekingaris: shows [Ts Ac] (a straight, Ace to Five)
Ialogen collected $3.85 from pot
pokekingaris collected $3.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8 | Rake $0.35
Board [2d 5d 3s 8c 4h]
Seat 1: Ialogen (small blind) showed [Ah 2h] and won ($3.85) with a straight, Ace to Five
Seat 2: CRUSH41 (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 3: Ottawa2108 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: pokekingaris showed [Ts Ac] and won ($3.80) with a straight, Ace to Five
Seat 5: jhm26 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: fabianTo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: tenbob folded on the River
Seat 9: I_like_me22 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Don't mind the limp, decent hand to see a flop with. We miss so it's an easy C/F.

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PokerStars Game #15125293410: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/02/07 - 14:38:42 (ET)
Table 'Clematis III' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Ialogen ($111.40 in chips)
Seat 2: CRUSH41 ($197.30 in chips)
Seat 3: Ottawa2108 ($114 in chips)
Seat 4: pokekingaris ($94.55 in chips)
Seat 5: jhm26 ($135.40 in chips)
Seat 7: fabianTo ($162.35 in chips)
Seat 8: tenbob ($99.35 in chips)
Seat 9: I_like_me22 ($101 in chips)
I_like_me22: posts small blind $0.50
Ialogen: posts big blind $1
resee2929: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [Td Tc]
CRUSH41: folds
Ottawa2108: folds
pokekingaris: folds
jhm26: raises $2 to $3
fabianTo: folds
tenbob: calls $3
I_like_me22: folds
Ialogen: folds
*** FLOP *** [8s 8h 4s]
jhm26: bets $6
tenbob: raises $12 to $18
jhm26: folds
tenbob collected $18.55 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $19.50 | Rake $0.95
Board [8s 8h 4s]
Seat 1: Ialogen (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: CRUSH41 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Ottawa2108 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: pokekingaris folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: jhm26 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: fabianTo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: tenbob (button) collected ($18.55)
Seat 9: I_like_me22 (small blind) folded before Flop


Well played, with this flop we're only really worried about overpairs. He's most likely cbetting with just 2 overs and we take the pot down right here
 
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Dealt to tenbob [Td Tc]
jhm26: raises $2 to $3
tenbob: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [8s 8h 4s]
jhm26: bets $6
tenbob: raises $12 to $18
jhm26: folds
tenbob collected $18.55 from pot
Is the reason we don't play this WA/WB because villain's range is mostly unpaired overcards that have 6 outs against us, plus the possibility of a flush draw?

Just makin' sure.
 
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^^^^ c9, i dont think we can count this as a wa,wb situation, since we generally need to protect against those overs. If an overcard hits on the turn such as a jack, suddenly we have no idea where we stand in the hand. I prefer raising and taking it down
 
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PokerStars Game #15125423756: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/02/07 - 14:44:51 (ET)
Table 'Beyer II' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: PsyMaster ($21 in chips)
Seat 2: jan1960 ($40.60 in chips)
Seat 3: MaKiaVeli ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: Haens28 ($97.50 in chips)
Seat 5: HitmanHaydon ($103.55 in chips)
Seat 6: plang08 ($54 in chips)
Seat 7: Ben436 ($176.10 in chips)
Seat 8: BOOGNISH420 ($40.35 in chips)
Seat 9: tenbob ($104 in chips)
tenbob: posts small blind $0.50
PsyMaster: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [As 8d]
jan1960: folds
MaKiaVeli: folds
Haens28: folds
HitmanHaydon: folds
plang08: folds
Ben436: folds
BOOGNISH420: folds
tenbob: raises $3 to $4
PsyMaster: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [6h Ah 2h]
tenbob: bets $6
PsyMaster: calls $6
*** TURN *** [6h Ah 2h] Q♦
tenbob: bets $11
PsyMaster: calls $11 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [6h Ah 2h Qd] A♣
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tenbob: shows [As 8d] (three of a kind, Aces)
PsyMaster: mucks hand
tenbob collected $39.95 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $42 | Rake $2.05
Board [6h Ah 2h Qd Ac]
Seat 1: PsyMaster (big blind) mucked [Qh Td]
Seat 2: jan1960 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: MaKiaVeli folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Haens28 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: HitmanHaydon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: plang08 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Ben436 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: BOOGNISH420 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: tenbob (small blind) showed [As 8d] and won ($39.95) with three of a kind, Aces

Good play, decent hand with decent position. You hit the flop, the idiot with QT calls the cbet and the all-in after turning 2nd pair.
My one comment here would be the turn bet though. I agree we don't want to check here, we're practically pot committed because of his stack,
and letting the opponent make the decision whether to put it in or not is bad, but I would actually make a smaller bet here. We're committed,
no matter what the river brings we want it all-in, so why not make like another $6 bet on this turn and put it all in on the river?
Not a horrible play here but we are getting FE here that we actually don't want because we're not folding out any better hands

This guy if i remember was a total donk, I was semi-hoping that he would decide to make a stand on the turn and shove will little or no FE. It was something he'd been doing on the table, shoving on weak turn bets. More a read dependant play.
 
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