QQ vs LAG - would you call river?

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red_dawn_28

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poker stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)
Riemel: $20.15
vkm-train: $14.65
Ar Schaflme: $23.15
betsie80: $8.40
stilgar79: $12.35
munnyshot: $24.15 (30%/2%/.26 [by the way should I include PF num's in aggro?])
Hero: $41.05
MisterD2: $34.15 (30%/21%/1.8 [only 23 hands though])
Preflop: Hero is dealt Q
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Q
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(8 Players)
3 folds, munnyshot calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.00, MisterD2 calls $1.00, 2 folds, munnyshot calls $0.75
Flop: ($3.35) T
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5
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6
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(3 Players)
munnyshot bets $1.75, Hero raises to $5.50, MisterD2 calls $5.50, munnyshot folds
Turn: ($16.10) A
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(2 Players)
Hero checks, MisterD2 bets $5.00, Hero calls $5.00
River: ($26.10) 6
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(2 Players)
Hero checks, MisterD2 bets $15.25
Pot Size: $41.35
Hero: ????

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Do I call this? When he flat-called my raise I figured he had AK and was just seeing what the turn brought. Unfortunately it brought an Ace so I thought I'd check/call to get to SD cheaply. The river bet seemed like a value bet.

Thanks - Red Dawn (first post)
 
NineLions

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Hmmm, I don't know what calls the preflop raise and the pot sized raise on the flop other than a set or possibly AT, either of which you're way behind on the turn. Unfortunately he's giving you 21/5 to call his turn bet so it's tough to fold there. I'm done by the river though.
 
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maltz

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Your turn play spills weakness all over the place. Raising, or check re-raise would be much better.

A solid opponent would make that river bet with rags, knowing you can never call. (Did you? :))

Or, when that second 6 hits you push all-in instantly. Against a weak player that wouldn't be a good idea, though.
 
TheJace

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I'd fold, it looks likely that he has an Ace and I'd rather just save myself the $15. A lot of players make the mistake of getting married to a high pocket pair such as this and not having the discipline to lay it down when an overcard hits. He is showing a lot of resistance here and all you can beat here is probably a pure bluff or try to move him off his hand with an all-in bet which would do nothing as a raise here since he is pot committed at this point. I wouldn't open shove when the six comes on the river because I would think it looks very suspicious if I was the other player especially after you check-call the turn which looks weak. So basically, I'd fold. Also if I wanted to stay on the turn I'd rather bet it to get a better sense of where I'm at in the hand.
 
Zameus

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Please lead the turn. Specifically bet/fold.

As played fold river. Theres almost no chance you're ahead here. In fact, I think villian has 55.

Stats based on 23 hands tell you nothing. I've run 12/10 for short periods and I am typically a 26/16 lagtard.
 
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red_dawn_28

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result

thanks for the replys folks. i ended up folding so we'll never know. but i agree - i think i was behind.

red dawn
 
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