pokerstars Game #8459517595: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/02/15 - 19:52:49 (ET)
Table 'Aidamina' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: bluefront ($49 in chips)
Seat 2: Sammyv1 ($50.55 in chips)
Seat 3: NoFearGTP ($28.80 in chips)
Seat 4: kkadlec ($28.25 in chips)
Seat 5: WhoaBundy ($23.25 in chips)
Seat 6: discod13 ($26.55 in chips)
Seat 7: thejesterj ($33.65 in chips)
Seat 8: gabesaid ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 9: burgdizzle12 ($52.75 in chips)
WhoaBundy: posts small blind $0.25
discod13: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Sammyv1 [Ks Kh]
thejesterj: raises $1 to $1.50
gabesaid: folds
burgdizzle12: raises $1 to $2.50
bluefront: folds
Sammyv1: raises $6.50 to $9
NoFearGTP: folds
kkadlec: folds
WhoaBundy: folds
discod13: folds
thejesterj: raises $24.65 to $33.65 and is all-in
burgdizzle12: raises $19.10 to $52.75 and is all-in
Sammyv1: calls $41.55 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Jh 5d Qc]
*** TURN *** [Jh 5d Qc] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [Jh 5d Qc Qd] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
burgdizzle12: shows [Ac As] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
Sammyv1: shows [Ks Kh] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
burgdizzle12 collected $33.80 from side pot
thejesterj: shows [Qs Qh] (four of a kind, Queens)
thejesterj collected $98.70 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $135.50 Main pot $98.70. Side pot $33.80. | Rake $3
Board [Jh 5d Qc Qd 3c]
Seat 1: bluefront folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Sammyv1 showed [Ks Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 3: NoFearGTP folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: kkadlec (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: WhoaBundy (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: discod13 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: thejesterj showed [Qs Qh] and won ($98.70) with four of a kind, Queens
Seat 8: gabesaid folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: burgdizzle12 showed [Ac As] and won ($33.80) with two pair, Aces and Queens


Any reads or stats on utg?

This is actually kind of iffy with utg's actions. He raises utg, then two reraises behind him (one from you, a pretty solid TAG player) have to mean great strength, and he comes over the top of them!? I don't think I see anything but KK/AA doing this here. That is unless he's a very LAG player, but even then, players don't just stick their whole stack in preflop without a damn strong hand. Especially with the given action.

Without any reads, I think I have to say fold after the all in(s). It's mostly utg's actions that have me scared, and not really utg+2's.



I personally would of folded, yea there is a good chance you are still ahead to 2 players before you but even against 2 players KK is not that big of a favorite. Lets say on player has QQ and one has AK. You are only about 53% To win this hand, you have not invested that much in the pot and Like Mike Caro says money you have put in pot already is no longer yours so kiss it goodbye and fold. Big pairs I would rather play heads up and obviously these guys are willing to put it all in pre-flop so if you are not behind already then you are barley ahead.

Think you have to put at least one on AK as the weakest possible hand, so basicly you are either a coinflip or way behind. As it is you were way behind.


Dang it, I almost laid it down. I thought long about this one when I was at the table.



Dang it, I almost laid it down. I thought long about this one when I was at the table.

I hate playing preflop poker, of course im still raising with big hands like KK and AA etc, but I would much rather play after the flop. If it was live I would tell you to watch the player not the flop but since this was online oh well. The sign of a strong person is being able to lay down big hands like this, not saying you are not strong player just saying well you know what I mean. You saying you almost layed it down is a good sign you are well on your way because most players would never lay down KK EVER.


This is NEVER a fold:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.266% 34.40% 01.87% 130146252 7058028.00 { KhKs }
Hand 1: 31.867% 29.00% 02.87% 109697442 10864470.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 2: 31.867% 29.00% 02.87% 109697442 10864470.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }

We have KK preflop and its ****ing 50NL.....don't even THINK about folding. Its a cooler...it happens...move on