NL$100 FR, AKs OOP vs super nit, pre-flop decision time.

tenbob

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Villian is 4/4/0 over 100(ish) hands. So ive gotta assume its big here. What do we do ? 3-bet/fold, 3-bet lead any flop, call and c/f, call and see a helpful flop or drop, call see a good flop and lead c/r ? Against most players im 3-betting light, these situations are troublesome.

pokerstars Game #14377929139: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/01/06 - 21:10:34 (ET)
Table 'Iva IV' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: tripCCC ($102.45 in chips)
Seat 2: mrbollino ($141.25 in chips)
Seat 3: ChangLeeSun ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: Larermo ($94 in chips)
Seat 5: El-Fite ($143.50 in chips)
Seat 6: matadoren7 ($103.80 in chips)
Seat 7: tXipiTi ($121.90 in chips)
Seat 8: sinosuke ($155.50 in chips)
Seat 9: tenbob ($100 in chips)
tenbob: posts small blind $0.50
tripCCC: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [Kh Ah]
mrbollino: folds
ChangLeeSun: folds
Larermo: folds
El-Fite: folds
matadoren7: raises $3 to $4
tXipiTi: folds
sinosuke: folds
sinosuke leaves the table
tenbob: ?????
 
NineLions

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4/4/0; Wow.

If you see a flop and a catch an A or K, you might still be dead, unless this is AK/QQ. The only "safe" flop is hearts or a straight.

This tight, I woudn't expect 3 betting preflop would have any effect, so I'd vote call, possibly re-raise the flop if it's dangerous flop to an overpair (T97 or something).
 
pantin007

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well seeing that he is that tight i would reraise to c if he has AA or KK
if he calls u can put him on the same kind of hand as u or maybe QQ,JJ
if he reraises i would have to fold
 
OzExorcist

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If you flat call, any reads on whether the BB is likely to come along for the ride and complicate things or, worse, try a squeeze? OOP against two opponents this could get messy.

If I 3-bet this before the flop, it's to make sure I play the pot heads up as much as anything else. Otherwise I lean towards flat call and see a helpful flop or drop.
 
ChuckTs

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%4 isn't that tight preflop. Even if he's raising exactly that percent, it equates to 99+, AK+, AQs+. Not only that, but his raise is MP/LP which makes it a slightly wider range, I'd think.

I 3-bet this, bet any flop and shut down if I don't improve. I think we could get some tricky spots, but we'll deal with them when we get there. For now, 3-bet, bet flop. We need the FE with AKs.
 
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%4 isn't that tight preflop. Even if he's raising exactly that percent, it equates to 99+, AK+, AQs+. Not only that, but his raise is MP/LP which makes it a slightly wider range, I'd think.

I 3-bet this, bet any flop and shut down if I don't improve. I think we could get some tricky spots, but we'll deal with them when we get there. For now, 3-bet, bet flop. We need the FE with AKs.

I don't think Daddyd McNit here opens up in position so his range is probably the same anywhere at the table. Agree with yoru assesment.
 
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I would 3-bet, fold to a 4-bet, and bet out on the better 50% of flops, check/fold the worst 50%.

I don't like playing AK OOP versus a nit when I don't have much information. It becomes very easy to lose your stack if you hit your A or K and it's no good. If we put in the 3-bet, we can fold to a reraise and gain a lot of confidence that our A or K would be good if he calls. That extra information can be very useful. In general, I don't like to just call OOP, I reraise or fold.
 
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%4 isn't that tight preflop. Even if he's raising exactly that percent, it equates to 99+, AK+, AQs+. Not only that, but his raise is MP/LP which makes it a slightly wider range, I'd think.

I 3-bet this, bet any flop and shut down if I don't improve. I think we could get some tricky spots, but we'll deal with them when we get there. For now, 3-bet, bet flop. We need the FE with AKs.

I agree with chuck t here, a 3 bet is probably the only way we will know if hitting an ace or a king is good for us. We c bet any flop and re evaluate then, we fold to a 4 bet pre flop, and if we dont improve fold to a re raise on flop.
 
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