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UTG is aggressive pre-flop, raising over 20% of the time. He's also quite loose, VP$IP just over 30%.

PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (i.e. $1 big blind) (10 handed)

UTG ($55.40)
UTG+1 ($155.50)
UTG+2 ($72.00)
MP1 ($52.50)
MP2 ($109.60)
Hero ($40.50)
CO ($87.00)
Button ($10.50)
SB ($99.00)
BB ($88.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A
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, Q
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UTG raises to $5, 4 folds, Hero calls $5, 4 folds. <- is this a calling hand to a 5x raise UTG?

Flop: ($11.50) 2
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, Q
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, J
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(2 players)
UTG bets $5, Hero ......?

Fold, call or raise (if raise, by how much)?
 
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Well, you say that UTG is loose/aggressive, so I think you made the right call pre-flop.

Post-flop, I would say raise to the size of the pot. You've hit on the flop, but with 2 spades you don't want him to catch a flush. Make him pay for it.
 
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I'm guessing he has a queen but a lower kicker like a 10 or 9. I would just raise at least $10 more. If he calls you, that's fine. You have the nut flush draw and a outside chance straight draw. You have at least 15 outs if he has your top pair with highest kicker beat. That means you are at least 60% favorite to win IF you're behind.
 
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juiceeQ said:
Post-flop, I would say raise to the size of the pot. You've hit on the flop, but with 2 spades you don't want him to catch a flush. Make him pay for it.

Actually, it would be great if his opponent does hit the flush because Bombjack would have the nut flush.
 
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Uh, derrr...reading over Tim's post, I realize I didn't thoroughly read the HH to see you have the nut flush draw. So nevermind what I said about him catching the spade flush--oopsie! :eek:
 
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Pot's at 16.50, I'd raise it to about $15, or 3X his bet.
If he comes over the top of you (this is a big action flop), then you still have plenty of outs. Flush draw, overcard, another queen...so long as he doesn't have a set, AA or 2 pair, you're the favourite here.
 
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Raise somewhere around $15, call a push.

Lead on any turn if he calls and checks to you.
 
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You have to bet that TPTK with a nut flush possibility.. Granted villian may have 2 pair or a set, you have to many outs at this point in time to not back away.. BET
 
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UTG ($55.40)
UTG+1 ($155.50)
UTG+2 ($72.00)
MP1 ($52.50)
MP2 ($109.60)
Hero ($40.50)
CO ($87.00)
Button ($10.50)
SB ($99.00)
BB ($88.10)

pick a new table
 
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What's his AF? what hands would he raise with utg? probably any King/paint Ace/paint. He might have K10s and be block betting his draw. Or trying to milk you with AA/KK/QQ/JJ/22 (if he raises a lot he might be raising any pp). Could be cont betting AK. Raise to 15-20 and that should tell you where you are.
 
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^^^I've heard it several times, but whats a block bet?
 
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joosebuck - His aggresession factor is 2.67. Including an AF of infinity on the flop. Mine's 3.15. I don't know what these figures mean.

I only bought in for $50, max being $100, which is why I was a bit short on chips. Came out with $80 though, so table selection wasn't much of a problem.
 
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he has either KQ, QJ, or a flush draw. You raise this flop, and hope for a spade.
 
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ChuckTs said:
^^^I've heard it several times, but whats a block bet?

Essentially making a small bet in the hope that by doing so the player avoids having to call a larger bet.
 
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There's $11.50 in the pot and I have $30.50 left. I need 30.5/(11.5+30.5*2) = 42% equity to call all-in.

His possible hands and my equity are:
AA - 43%
KK - 51%
QQ - 29%
JJ - 31%
TT - 93%
AK - 84%
AQ - 68%
AJ - 93%
KQ - 91%
QJ - 45%

So it's only a fold versus QQ or JJ. Unlikely he has QQ as I have one an there's one on the board. JJ also less likely than AA or KK.

Only not a raise against the above plus AA, QJ.

I'd give him more credit for a big hand as his raise is UTG, but I think a raise was right.

Of course it's a bit tricky to do these sums on the fly.
 
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Here are the results, for the results-oriented among you...:

PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (10 handed)

UTG ($55.40)
UTG+1 ($155.50)
UTG+2 ($72.00)
MP1 ($52.50)
MP2 ($109.60)
Hero ($40.50)
CO ($87.00)
Button ($10.50)
SB ($99.00)
BB ($88.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A
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, Q
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UTG raises to $5, 4 folds, Hero calls $5, 4 folds.

Flop: ($11.50) 2
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, Q
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, J
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(2 players)
UTG bets $5, Hero raises to $20, UTG raises to $40, Hero calls $15.50 (All-In).

Turn: ($87) A
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($87) 5
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

SHOWDOWN
UTG shows [ KH,KD ]
Hero shows [ AS,QS ]
UTG wins $4.50, Hero wins $80.50.
 
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I play outside the box and think a bit diffent than most poker players

Heres what would be running thru my mind in that situation.

I am up against a player and I KNOW how he plays. Aggresive with crap and capable of pushing back hard. He has a very good chance of being a successfull bully at any table he plays..EXCEPT any table he plays that I am at. I will make him pay big to push me around.

In this hand I would have bet 150-200% the pot. I have top pair and the nut draw with two cards to go. And he just got punched in the nose with a extreme raise. He IS NOT going to push me around NO WAY

If he folds I win cash and his fear

If he calls and I catch the winning hand he looks like an idiot and respects me

Of he calls and beats me for a big stack. I have set him up to call me for even a bigger stack. He think he has put one over on me and now has false power over me..Bullshit. He paid big to be a underdog. That is a losing longrun march. HE is "set up" and will pay me back, Plus more


In all cases above I have him and he is dead. I love playing against these players...I have them damn near everytime. I have won more cash from these player than any other.
 
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