Limit 7 card stud river raise

Effexor

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For a change of pace I have been playing some stud / Omaha hi / Omaha hi/low ( round out my poker skills a bit, maybe for some horse later on)

Seeing as I don't play Limit usually, I was wondering how this hand was played, and if I should have called the river raise. Usually people call down like this on draws and then raise on the river when they hit. (from my limited experience anyways)

full tilt poker Game #2575735008: Table Crystal Water - $0.25/$0.50 Ante $0.05 - Limit Seven Card Stud - 17:10:53 ET - 2007/06/03
Seat 1: Effexor ($10.40)
Seat 2: fititspoker ($2.60)
Seat 3: camper371 ($12.95), is sitting out
Seat 4: Shiro Recreant ($4.30)
Seat 5: smdop1 ($11.70)
Seat 7: phoenix_again ($11.70)
Seat 8: DAndrews ($9.70)
phoenix_again antes $0.05
DAndrews antes $0.05
fititspoker antes $0.05
Effexor antes $0.05
Shiro Recreant antes $0.05
smdop1 antes $0.05
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to Effexor [Th 5h] [Qh]
Dealt to fititspoker [6h]
Dealt to Shiro Recreant [7s]
Dealt to smdop1 [5s]
Dealt to phoenix_again [Jd]
Dealt to DAndrews [Jc]
smdop1 is low with [5s]
smdop1 brings in for $0.10
phoenix_again calls $0.10
DAndrews calls $0.10
Effexor calls $0.10
fititspoker has 15 seconds left to act
fititspoker calls $0.10
Shiro Recreant folds
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to Effexor [Th 5h Qh] [Qd]
Dealt to fititspoker [6h] [6d]
Dealt to smdop1 [5s] [3h]
Dealt to phoenix_again [Jd] [8c]
Dealt to DAndrews [Jc] [4s]
Effexor bets $0.25
Docdiesel sits down
Docdiesel adds $5
fititspoker calls $0.25
Docdiesel is sitting out
smdop1 folds
phoenix_again calls $0.25
DAndrews folds
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to Effexor [Th 5h Qh Qd] [Jh]
Dealt to fititspoker [6h 6d] [9h]
Dealt to phoenix_again [Jd 8c] [7h]
Effexor bets $0.50
fititspoker calls $0.50
phoenix_again folds
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to Effexor [Th 5h Qh Qd Jh] [3c]
Dealt to fititspoker [6h 6d 9h] [Ad]
camper371 has returned
Effexor bets $0.50
fititspoker calls $0.50
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to Effexor [Th 5h Qh Qd Jh 3c] [Ks]
Effexor bets $0.50
fititspoker raises to $1
Effexor has 15 seconds left to act
Effexor folds
Uncalled bet of $0.50 returned to fititspoker
fititspoker mucks
fititspoker wins the pot ($4.35)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.55 | Rake $0.20
Seat 1: Effexor folded on 7th St.
Seat 2: fititspoker collected ($4.35), mucked
Seat 3: camper371 is sitting out
Seat 4: Shiro Recreant folded on 3rd St.
Seat 5: smdop1 folded on 4th St.
Seat 7: phoenix_again folded on 5th St.
Seat 8: DAndrews folded on 4th St.
 
BKrywko1

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There is no such thing as a river bluff at these levels. Well, at least they aren't successful very often. You ran into a higher 2 pair or trips, good fold.

Many posters would have called getting over 8-1 here...only has to be right once every 8 calls for this to be a profitable play, plus it gives you more information on your opponent.
 
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I'd check call the last 2 streets
 
stormswa

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stud

in stud it is almost impossible to lay down a hand on 7th street, I think if you are folding alot on 7th that is a giant hole in your game unless of course you missed some soft of draw.
 
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I'd check call the last 2 streets

^This

I understand the bet when you had a pair of queens. But when you have a fluh draw and an Ace is showing, I would just check and call what he bets. It prevents a reraise which could have happened if you bet first.
 
Dorkus Malorkus

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6th is debatable, but 7th is an absolutely standard check-call (and this is coming from someone who knows bugger all about stud)
 
Bombjack

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Why would you even think about betting this river with one pair, which is face up?
 
mrsnake3695

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River is an obvious check/call. You really can't fold at this point but you want to put in as little as possible. You are prob beat since he's obviously not afraid of your pair but laying down on the river is rarely the right play if you have the opponent's board beat.
 
Effexor

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Why would you even think about betting this river with one pair, which is face up?

I made this bet thinking that maybe he had a busted draw and would fold, which he had done before on several occasions.
 
Dorkus Malorkus

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I made this bet thinking that maybe he had a busted draw and would fold, which he had done before on several occasions.

so? if he has a busted draw and folds, you gain nothing by betting the river. okay, you also gain nothing if you check and he checks behind, but seeing as he won't always have a busted draw and he won't call your river bet with anything that you can beat, there is absolutely no reason to bet the river.
 
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