Lend me your brains.

[Xife]

Game # 512670197 - Texas Hold'em No Limit EUR 0.25/0.50 - Table "Nacka"

Players(max 8):
Xife (EUR 51.73 in seat 1)
syltryggen (EUR 67.67 in seat 2)
anna_pot (EUR 33.20 in seat 3)
alassis (EUR 44.02 in seat 4)
fitzw2 (EUR 21.75 in seat 5)
gryka44 (EUR 28.35 in seat 6)
LurvigAnka (EUR 38.89 in seat 7)
dqrek_ (EUR 36.25 in seat 8)

Dealer: LurvigAnka
Small Blind: dqrek_ (0.25)
Big Blind: Xife (0.50)

Xife was dealt:

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syltryggen Call (0.50)
anna_pot Fold
alassis Fold
fitzw2 Call (0.50)
gryka44 Fold
LurvigAnka Fold
dqrek_ Call (0.25)
Xife Raise (1.50)
syltryggen Call (1.50)
fitzw2 Call (1.50)
dqrek_ Fold

Flop

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Xife Bet (4.25)
syltryggen Call (4.25)
fitzw2 All-In (19.75)


What now ?? Preflop raise not enough ? Did I bet too much on the flop ? Looking for any sort of help.... No reads whatsoever on the two guys involved in this pot...

 

[alan1983]

Straight isnt likely i guess, since itd have 2 be q9 or 97.

One could have 99 and other ace jack, or someone could have hit a set or 2 pairs with jack ten although not as likely.

Id probably call that.

 

[bubbasbestbabe]

AJ most likely. Trying to keep the str8 and flush draw away. Call.

 

[Lo-Dog]

Would a donk at CDP call with 79 or 9Q? If they are suited, hell ya.

With just a little info telling me these are typical CDP donks I call expecting to see a flush draw or top pair the majority of the time.



(never go str8 from CDP to PS, sure way to lose all your funds)

I'm usually at the .10/.20 tables there, maybe the quality of play gets a lot better up one level.

 

[Xife]

Would a donk at CDP call with 79 or 9Q? If they are suited, hell ya.

With just a little info telling me these are typical CDP donks I call expecting to see a flush draw or top pair the majority of the time.



(never go str8 from CDP to PS, sure way to lose all your funds)

I'm usually at the .10/.20 tables there, maybe the quality of play gets a lot better up one level.

Yes LoDog makes a good point I should have mentioned... The players at CDP are more donkish then most sites...

About the quality of play being better at .25/.50...
http://www.pokerhand.org/?802020
Does this answer your question ?

 

[ChuckTs]

Preflop, ya gotta raise more. The standard 'equation' is 3BBs + 1 for every limper - but - we'll be out of position post-flop, so we should probably tack on another BB here. I like a 2 or 2.50 bet preflop to scare away any 97s or similar hands.

Post-flop, this got ugly. 2 pair has you beat, set has you beat, maybe a straight, he could have KQh or something like that - who knows. That's why we bet more PF. I probably push to isolate, and hate life when they both call and show a set and a straight. :/

 

[Xife]

Preflop, ya gotta raise more. The standard 'equation' is 3BBs + 1 for every limper - but - we'll be out of position post-flop, so we should probably tack on another BB here. I like a 2 or 2.50 bet preflop to scare away any 97s or similar hands.

Thanks chuck, figured my raise preflop was too small... I guess I've just lost confidence in the Ladies

Post-flop, this got ugly. 2 pair has you beat, set has you beat, maybe a straight, he could have KQh or something like that - who knows. That's why we bet more PF. I probably push to isolate, and hate life when they both call and show a set and a straight. :/

Was leading with a €4.25 bet a good idea? Should it have been more ? less ? checked?

Anyways I did as you said, and sure enough syltryggen shows Q9, the other guy AJ.....

 

[ChuckTs]

Leading the flop is definitely a good idea; action flop with 3 other people and you want to make sure noone outdraws you with a flush draw or KQ or the like.

I don't think the amount was bad, but I think a little smaller might be better. Something like $3 or $3.50 does the job fine; that way if you do get a strong raise from a player then you can get away from it. On the other hand, looking at that KK hand you linked to, I have to auto-shove this one. Their ranges are just too wide to let it go; I wouldn't doubt seeing 99 or QJ from either of them.

 

[joosebuck]

could be 109/89/J9/QKh pretty easily.