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shagnscoob
Rock Star
Silver Level
I'd hate to keep posting big groups of hands, but I have a lot of situations that I need to think through. Feel free to comment on any of the lines.
HAND 1
grievex: posts small blind $0.02
tazza777: posts big blind $0.05
EL_EL: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Td Ah]
pitt35tb: folds
RoseWidow: calls $0.05
Brenda402: calls $0.05
pkrbrbill: calls $0.05
madddogg1602: folds
EL_EL: checks
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
msfiolek: folds
grievex: calls $0.03
tazza777: checks
*** FLOP *** [Js Ts 4c]
grievex: checks
tazza777: checks
RoseWidow: checks
Brenda402: checks
pkrbrbill: checks
EL_EL: bets $0.05
sh4gnscoob: folds
Middle pair best kicker with 2 to a flush and 2 to a straight. If villain has a jack I'm drawing to 5 outs, plus As is no good. If villain is playing a flush draw aggressively, I should have raised to knock out other opponents, and hope this guy doesn't hit his cards? Fold or Raise?
HAND 2
nero5150: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [7c Ks]
tazza777: folds
Landy25: calls $0.05
szezsu: folds
Shlussel: folds
BM_142: folds
nero5150: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [As Kd 6c]
nero5150: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
Landy25: folds
nero5150: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [As Kd 6c] [8d]
nero5150: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
nero5150: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [As Kd 6c 8d] [2c]
nero5150: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
nero5150: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
I have no idea how I should have played this. Middle pair weak kicker vs. 1 opponent. He checked, I bet, every round. With middle pair weak kicker and position, I could have perhaps just bet the flop and then seen the showdown with betting again, or I could have tried to knock him out and see how far he'd go. I wasn't afraid of an ace after he checked to me on the flop, but he also could have been chasing a backdoor flush or the gutshot to the straight, but either way he was outdone and I did right to keep betting into him forcing him to pay for his cards. Either that or he was very weakly playing an Ace or King, or he was intentionally slowplaying against me sensing that I was a very aggressive player.
HAND 3
sh4gnscoob: posts small blind $0.02
tazza777: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [As Jh]
luedottin: folds
mikeby: folds
Landy25: folds
szezsu: calls $0.05
Shlussel: folds
BM_142: folds
nero5150: folds
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
tazza777: folds
szezsu: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [Kd 2d Jd]
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
szezsu: raises $0.05 to $0.10
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [Kd 2d Jd] [5d]
sh4gnscoob: checks
szezsu: checks
*** RIVER *** [Kd 2d Jd 5d] [5s]
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
szezsu: raises $0.10 to $0.20
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
With 3 to a flush and a re-raise, should have folded. I didn't believe they had a flush, which was fair against one opponent, so I bet into them, but I highly doubt I'd see a reraise from anything less than a flush. I couldn't even rely on the backdoor, so I should have just folded at the flop and not gone through the torture of calling the raise on the river. At that point it seems like a bluff was very unlikely, and my middle pair was.... screwed.
HAND 4
nero5150: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [As Qc]
tazza777: folds
luedottin: folds
mikeby: folds
Landy25: calls $0.05
szezsu: raises $0.05 to $0.10
Alacraneitor has returned
Shlussel: folds
BM_142: folds
nero5150: calls $0.08
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
Landy25: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [Ah Jc Tc]
nero5150: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
Landy25: calls $0.05
szezsu: calls $0.05
nero5150: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [Ah Jc Tc] [5h]
nero5150: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
Landy25: checks
szezsu: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ah Jc Tc 5h] [Qh]
nero5150: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
Landy25: calls $0.10
szezsu: raises $0.10 to $0.20
nero5150: folds
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.10
Landy25: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Coincidentally the hand after hand 3. With position I probably should have re-raised before the flop and knocked out as many people as possible. Hit top pair with a gutshot straight and an overcard. Probably should have played this very aggressively, despite 2 flush. Aggressively until 3rd club drops and then back off. I pretty much fell for the free card play on the turn, giving anyone with a K the straight. Not to mention missing opportunities to check-raise on the flop. Didn't play aggressively enough considering the strength of my hand, despite the coordination on the board.
HAND 5
BM_142: posts small blind $0.02
nero5150: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Jh Jd]
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
tazza777: folds
luedottin: folds
mikeby: raises $0.05 to $0.15
Landy25: folds
szezsu: folds
Shlussel: folds
BM_142: folds
nero5150: folds
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [8c 4h Qh]
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
mikeby: raises $0.05 to $0.10
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [8c 4h Qh] [3c]
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
mikeby: raises $0.10 to $0.20
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.10
That last call is exactly where I should have either folded, or had it checked to showdown. With the queen on the board my only out was another J or the backdoor heart draw, which didn't come on the turn so I should have stepped down. Especially when it was pretty obvious after the flop that he had to at least have a queen or higher pocket pair. My backdoor gave me 1.5 outs, plus 2 outs to another J, 3.5 outs against a higher pair = VERY poor equity against one opponent. All in all--> very loosely aggressive, like throwing money down the toilet.
HAND 6
szezsu: posts small blind $0.02
Shlussel: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Kh Qs]
BM_142: calls $0.05
nero5150: calls $0.05
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
tazza777: folds
mikeby: folds
Landy25: calls $0.10
szezsu: folds
bauxiteb joins the table at seat #7
Shlussel: folds
BM_142: calls $0.05
nero5150: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [8s Jc 3s]
BM_142: bets $0.05
nero5150: calls $0.05
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
Landy25: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [8s Jc 3s] [Kc]
BM_142: bets $0.10
nero5150: calls $0.10
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.10 to $0.20
Landy25: folds
BM_142: raises $0.10 to $0.30
nero5150: folds
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [8s Jc 3s Kc] [Jh]
BM_142: bets $0.10
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Firstly, should not have raised preflop early position. Seems like a calling hand to me, and is listed so on my chart. However, against 3 opponents after the flop, I counted 5 outs (2 kings and 3 queens) to top pair, 1.5 outs to the backdoor straight and 1.5 outs to the backdoor flush, for a total of 8 outs, which still only gets 4.75 to one, and against 3 opponents just isn't cutting it. Should have folded to the bettor, or if it checked to me bet out. Calling seems to be a mistake, although I did get a king on the turn. With top pair and an overcard kicker, raising seemed an appropriate choice, but when it got re-raised I should have known I was beat. However, the pot was enormous at that point, over 20BBs, so perhaps I was right to call down and make him show me the Jack.
I'd like to make another thread of more hands, I've got another 15 or so that I have questions about, but maybe I'll give it a couple days.
Let me know what you guys think.
HAND 1
grievex: posts small blind $0.02
tazza777: posts big blind $0.05
EL_EL: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Td Ah]
pitt35tb: folds
RoseWidow: calls $0.05
Brenda402: calls $0.05
pkrbrbill: calls $0.05
madddogg1602: folds
EL_EL: checks
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
msfiolek: folds
grievex: calls $0.03
tazza777: checks
*** FLOP *** [Js Ts 4c]
grievex: checks
tazza777: checks
RoseWidow: checks
Brenda402: checks
pkrbrbill: checks
EL_EL: bets $0.05
sh4gnscoob: folds
Middle pair best kicker with 2 to a flush and 2 to a straight. If villain has a jack I'm drawing to 5 outs, plus As is no good. If villain is playing a flush draw aggressively, I should have raised to knock out other opponents, and hope this guy doesn't hit his cards? Fold or Raise?
HAND 2
nero5150: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [7c Ks]
tazza777: folds
Landy25: calls $0.05
szezsu: folds
Shlussel: folds
BM_142: folds
nero5150: calls $0.03
sh4gnscoob: checks
*** FLOP *** [As Kd 6c]
nero5150: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
Landy25: folds
nero5150: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [As Kd 6c] [8d]
nero5150: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
nero5150: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [As Kd 6c 8d] [2c]
nero5150: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
nero5150: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
I have no idea how I should have played this. Middle pair weak kicker vs. 1 opponent. He checked, I bet, every round. With middle pair weak kicker and position, I could have perhaps just bet the flop and then seen the showdown with betting again, or I could have tried to knock him out and see how far he'd go. I wasn't afraid of an ace after he checked to me on the flop, but he also could have been chasing a backdoor flush or the gutshot to the straight, but either way he was outdone and I did right to keep betting into him forcing him to pay for his cards. Either that or he was very weakly playing an Ace or King, or he was intentionally slowplaying against me sensing that I was a very aggressive player.
HAND 3
sh4gnscoob: posts small blind $0.02
tazza777: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [As Jh]
luedottin: folds
mikeby: folds
Landy25: folds
szezsu: calls $0.05
Shlussel: folds
BM_142: folds
nero5150: folds
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
tazza777: folds
szezsu: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [Kd 2d Jd]
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
szezsu: raises $0.05 to $0.10
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [Kd 2d Jd] [5d]
sh4gnscoob: checks
szezsu: checks
*** RIVER *** [Kd 2d Jd 5d] [5s]
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
szezsu: raises $0.10 to $0.20
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
With 3 to a flush and a re-raise, should have folded. I didn't believe they had a flush, which was fair against one opponent, so I bet into them, but I highly doubt I'd see a reraise from anything less than a flush. I couldn't even rely on the backdoor, so I should have just folded at the flop and not gone through the torture of calling the raise on the river. At that point it seems like a bluff was very unlikely, and my middle pair was.... screwed.
HAND 4
nero5150: posts small blind $0.02
sh4gnscoob: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [As Qc]
tazza777: folds
luedottin: folds
mikeby: folds
Landy25: calls $0.05
szezsu: raises $0.05 to $0.10
Alacraneitor has returned
Shlussel: folds
BM_142: folds
nero5150: calls $0.08
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
Landy25: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [Ah Jc Tc]
nero5150: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
Landy25: calls $0.05
szezsu: calls $0.05
nero5150: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [Ah Jc Tc] [5h]
nero5150: checks
sh4gnscoob: checks
Landy25: checks
szezsu: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ah Jc Tc 5h] [Qh]
nero5150: checks
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
Landy25: calls $0.10
szezsu: raises $0.10 to $0.20
nero5150: folds
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.10
Landy25: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Coincidentally the hand after hand 3. With position I probably should have re-raised before the flop and knocked out as many people as possible. Hit top pair with a gutshot straight and an overcard. Probably should have played this very aggressively, despite 2 flush. Aggressively until 3rd club drops and then back off. I pretty much fell for the free card play on the turn, giving anyone with a K the straight. Not to mention missing opportunities to check-raise on the flop. Didn't play aggressively enough considering the strength of my hand, despite the coordination on the board.
HAND 5
BM_142: posts small blind $0.02
nero5150: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Jh Jd]
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
tazza777: folds
luedottin: folds
mikeby: raises $0.05 to $0.15
Landy25: folds
szezsu: folds
Shlussel: folds
BM_142: folds
nero5150: folds
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [8c 4h Qh]
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.05
mikeby: raises $0.05 to $0.10
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [8c 4h Qh] [3c]
sh4gnscoob: bets $0.10
mikeby: raises $0.10 to $0.20
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.10
That last call is exactly where I should have either folded, or had it checked to showdown. With the queen on the board my only out was another J or the backdoor heart draw, which didn't come on the turn so I should have stepped down. Especially when it was pretty obvious after the flop that he had to at least have a queen or higher pocket pair. My backdoor gave me 1.5 outs, plus 2 outs to another J, 3.5 outs against a higher pair = VERY poor equity against one opponent. All in all--> very loosely aggressive, like throwing money down the toilet.
HAND 6
szezsu: posts small blind $0.02
Shlussel: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sh4gnscoob [Kh Qs]
BM_142: calls $0.05
nero5150: calls $0.05
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.05 to $0.10
tazza777: folds
mikeby: folds
Landy25: calls $0.10
szezsu: folds
bauxiteb joins the table at seat #7
Shlussel: folds
BM_142: calls $0.05
nero5150: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [8s Jc 3s]
BM_142: bets $0.05
nero5150: calls $0.05
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.05
Landy25: calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [8s Jc 3s] [Kc]
BM_142: bets $0.10
nero5150: calls $0.10
sh4gnscoob: raises $0.10 to $0.20
Landy25: folds
BM_142: raises $0.10 to $0.30
nero5150: folds
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [8s Jc 3s Kc] [Jh]
BM_142: bets $0.10
sh4gnscoob: calls $0.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Firstly, should not have raised preflop early position. Seems like a calling hand to me, and is listed so on my chart. However, against 3 opponents after the flop, I counted 5 outs (2 kings and 3 queens) to top pair, 1.5 outs to the backdoor straight and 1.5 outs to the backdoor flush, for a total of 8 outs, which still only gets 4.75 to one, and against 3 opponents just isn't cutting it. Should have folded to the bettor, or if it checked to me bet out. Calling seems to be a mistake, although I did get a king on the turn. With top pair and an overcard kicker, raising seemed an appropriate choice, but when it got re-raised I should have known I was beat. However, the pot was enormous at that point, over 20BBs, so perhaps I was right to call down and make him show me the Jack.
I'd like to make another thread of more hands, I've got another 15 or so that I have questions about, but maybe I'll give it a couple days.
Let me know what you guys think.
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