was i right to call

[donaldnice]

any advice on this hand appreciated,
silver fc has just lost a few pots to me and has been betting frequently with 2 pair even less at times, only just started playing omaha so would like some help to understand if my call was ok, good, bad, awful, please tell me

** Game ID 1859154981 starting - 2008-02-08 15:17:52
** Titinius [Omaha] (0.10|0.20 Pot Limit - Cash Game) real money
- Kno2 sitting in seat 1 with $7.49 [Sitting out]
- skebedi sitting in seat 2 with $20.27
- __Kettu__ sitting in seat 4 with $20.10
- Silverfic sitting in seat 5 with $10.42 [Dealer]
- DonaldNice sitting in seat 6 with $10.34
- DynamoFred sitting in seat 7 with $17.50
- waski90 sitting in seat 8 with $6.32
- msfunkoff sitting in seat 10 with $19.40
DonaldNice posted the small blind - $0.10
DynamoFred posted the big blind - $0.20
** Dealing card to DonaldNice: 10 of Diamonds, 4 of Diamonds, 9 of Spades, 7 of Spades
waski90 raised - $0.40
msfunkoff called - $0.40
skebedi raised - $0.60
__Kettu__ called - $0.60
Silverfic called - $0.60
DonaldNice called - $0.60
DynamoFred folded
waski90 called - $0.60
msfunkoff called - $0.60
** Dealing the flop: 4 of Hearts, 10 of Spades, 8 of Spades
DonaldNice bet - $3.80
waski90 folded
msfunkoff folded
skebedi folded
__Kettu__ folded
Silverfic went all-in - $9.82
DonaldNice called - $9.82
** Dealing the turn: 5 of Diamonds
** Dealing the river: 2 of Diamonds
Silverfic shows: 8 of Hearts, 3 of Diamonds, 8 of Diamonds, 4 of Spades
DonaldNice mucks: 10 of Diamonds, 4 of Diamonds, 9 of Spades, 7 of Spades
Silverfic wins $22.27 from the main pot
End of game 1859154981

 

[c9h13no3]

Given your read on your opponent, I don't mind this call. You have top & bottom pair, with some re-draws to some nut outs.

2 T's give you top boat, Js & 6s gives you a straight flush, all 6's give you the nut straight. So that's 7 good clean outs, with outs to 3 J's, 2 4's and 6 spades that might be good on top of that.

Since this particular villain's range is so large, I don't mind this call. However, just be aware that in the future, you could be holding a lot fewer outs than you think. And it wouldn't hurt to tighten up a bit preflop if you think that your opponents are this loose.

 

[NuRelic]

Just my take, but...

- skebedi sitting in seat 2 with $20.27
- __Kettu__ sitting in seat 4 with $20.10
- Silverfic sitting in seat 5 with $10.42 [Dealer]
- DonaldNice sitting in seat 6 with $10.34
- DynamoFred sitting in seat 7 with $17.50
- waski90 sitting in seat 8 with $6.32
- msfunkoff sitting in seat 10 with $19.40
DonaldNice posted the small blind - $0.10
DynamoFred posted the big blind - $0.20
** Dealing card to DonaldNice:
waski90 raised - $0.40
msfunkoff called - $0.40
skebedi raised - $0.60
__Kettu__ called - $0.60
Silverfic called - $0.60
DonaldNice called - $0.60

Neither of you look like you have a very good hand to be smooth calling here with a double raise in front of you. Silverfic is looking to Flop a set of 8's and you're looking for a flush or a mid level straight. Neither situation is ideal for Omaha (I'm assuming this is Omaha Hi) and with the Initial Raiser yet to act, coupled with the fact that you'll be OOP; I'd say this is an obvious bad call right from the get-go.

DynamoFred folded
waski90 called - $0.60
msfunkoff called - $0.60
** Dealing the flop:
DonaldNice bet - $3.80

WOW! A Pot+ bet with Top and Bottom Pair, very Aggro and not appropriate for Omaha with your hand. Unlike Hold 'em, in Omaha you will tend to see monsters at showdown quite often and because players have so many avenues to follow coupled with so many possibilities on the Flop, 2 pair is generally not as strong as it would be in Hold 'em. It looks like your betting to protect your hand against the FD, whereas you would have been better served to simply check or bet 1/4 to 1/2 the pot and see what reaction that gets. Anyone with a Set or Top 2 Pair has you dominated and because of the FDT they will likely act out accordingly.

waski90 folded
msfunkoff folded
skebedi folded
__Kettu__ folded
Silverfic went all-in - $9.82

Based on your initial write up for this thread, Silverfic's play is understandable, but even so; shoving with Middle Set is not necessarily smart in Omaha. However, if he believes that you not very good at Omaha (this example of you play would tend to support that) he's prolly making the over bet because he's seen you push with 2 pair or worse and with everyone else out of the hand he's just decided to shove and take it down now or go to the River with what he may very well believe is the best hand.

DonaldNice called - $9.82

I understand the call, you think he's on tilt, but your hand doesn't warrant looking him up. IMHO, this is another bad call.

** Dealing the turn:
** Dealing the river:
Silverfic shows: 8 of Hearts, 3 of Diamonds, 8 of Diamonds, 4 of Spades
DonaldNice mucks: 10 of Diamonds, 4 of Diamonds, 9 of Spades, 7 of Spades
Silverfic wins $22.27 from the main pot
End of game 1859154981