help with this hand?

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Connon

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Oh my gosh I just typed a huge message and got it deleted when I tried to preview.

Anyway; Firstly I hope that my lack of knowlege on symbols and terminology doesn't mean that you guys can't help me. (If someone can tell me what xx/yy/zz numbers are all about I would be most appreciative)

Anyway the hand:

0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Sun Dec 16 18:07:31 EST 2007
Table Table 126436 (real money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: tigerblanc70 ( $3.61)
Seat 3: schurist ( $1.62)
Seat 4: TehConster ( $2.74)
Seat 5: going4abig1 ( $2.68)
Seat 6: Ratbout ( $4.77)
Seat 7: Marus_25 ( $6.09)
Seat 8: SvenFCN ( $4.19)
Ratbout posts small blind (0.02)
Marus_25 posts big blind (0.04)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TehConster [ Kc, Kd ]
SvenFCN calls (0.04)
tigerblanc70 folds
schurist calls (0.04)
TehConster calls (0.04)
going4abig1 calls (0.04)
Ratbout folds
Marus_25 raises (0.04) to 0.08
SvenFCN calls (0.04)
schurist calls (0.04)
TehConster raises (0.30) to 0.34
going4abig1 calls (0.30)
Marus_25 calls (0.26)
SvenFCN folds
schurist calls (0.26)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3h, Tc, 9d ]
Marus_25 checks
schurist bets (1.28)
schurist is all-In.
TehConster ??????

I had no read on schurist, although he had lost most hands he played, and not really got to turn any over.
going4abig1 I judged could be playing pretty much any two cards.
I also had no read on Marus as he was new to the table.

I had a pretty good table image I think, playing not too often and winning those hands that I had played the majority of the time, betting aggressively.

Anyway, what do you guys thin i should have done?

p.s. I limped in at the start as I was pretty sure that someone would raise. We hadn't seen too many hands in the previous spell that weren't at least min raised.
 
WVHillbilly

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First, the xx/yy/zz numbers are VP$IP (how often someone puts $$ in preflop) / Pre-flop raise (how often someone raises pre-flop) / Aggression (represents how aggressively a player bets post-flop). These numbers are generally gained using a software package like Poker Tracker.

Now, to your hand, I'm likely calling here (reraising actually) unless I have some info that this person won't go all-in with less than 2 pair. His bet is really only a pot sized bet so it's not a huge stretch to think he does this A 10 or even J Q. Of course you may also be way behind here to 2 pair or a set, but I'd still likely call. I do lose a lot of $$ this way so maybe you should ignore everything I've written. :)
 
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Connon

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Thanks...soon after posting this I also decided it was stupid and it was an easy call / reraise...oh well I suck haha
 
shinedown.45

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you had played this all wrong from the start, aggression is the key to winning most hands and your preflop call with KK was (IMO) extremely weak, you just let anybody holding un/suited connectors, any two suited cards and all small pairs into this limped pot....shame on you buddy :).
As for your next move.....shove to isolate.
And if your beat by 2pair, then you have no-one to blame but yourself.
 
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Connon

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Well "buddy" if you had read what I wrote, or the hand history you would see that I said I had a strong feeling there would be a raise, and I did reraise this x4, so unless you are saying limping (or is it smooth calling) here and then reraising is weak which it might be, I hadn't thought of that, then I don't understand what is too bad about that.
 
c9h13no3

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I don't think the limp/re-raise was too terrible of a move, especially if there has rarely been an un-raised pot. People often put you on a smaller pocket pair if you make such a move.

And yeah, raise to isolate. Its just a pot-sized bet, and his range is pretty big.
 
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