A squeeze play in Stud H/L - don't make this mistake!

BKrywko1

BKrywko1

Rock Star
There are times playing Stud Hi/Lo when a made high hand and a locked-low hand are doing what is called a "squeeze play" on another player (who's almost always going for high hand) - usually this is done when you're down to 3 players in a hand, although it can be done with more involved.

Notice how xBrujox is chasing a high hand here, when it's obvious that he's chasing for 1/2 a pot...this is a great example of 2 players just hammering a pot to make others pay for their (in this case, unsuccessful, draws):


**** Hand History for Game 4709214053 *****
0.50/1 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Game Table (Limit) - Tue Jul 11 22:42:26 EDT 2006
Table Table 107779 (real money)
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: JEFF_RO ( $14.50)
Seat 2: hooker00 ( $24.25)
Seat 3: Calibre44 ( $25.25)
Seat 4: tfox3699 ( $30.13)
Seat 5: SciFiHound ( $27.37)
Seat 6: Kathy12345 ( $4.50)
Seat 7: HERO ( $27.75)
Seat 8: xBRUJOx ( $24.75)
JEFF_RO posts ante (0.25)
hooker00 posts ante (0.25)
Calibre44 posts ante (0.25)
tfox3699 posts ante (0.25)
SciFiHound posts ante (0.25)
Kathy12345 posts ante (0.25)
HERO posts ante (0.25)
xBRUJOx posts ante (0.25)
** Dealing **
Dealt to JEFF_RO [ Qc ]
Dealt to hooker00 [ 7s ]
Dealt to Calibre44 [ 8h ]
Dealt to tfox3699 [ 4d ]
Dealt to SciFiHound [ Ah ]
Dealt to Kathy12345 [ Kc ]
Dealt to HERO [ 7c, 6h ]
Dealt to HERO [ 8d ]
Dealt to xBRUJOx [ Qd ]
tfox3699 bring-ins (0.25)
SciFiHound calls (0.25)
Kathy12345 folds.
HERO calls (0.25) I'm not crazy about getting 876 to start in this game...but in a loose game like this, I'll see fourth street as long as it's cheap
xBRUJOx calls (0.25)
JEFF_RO calls (0.25)
hooker00 folds.
Calibre44 calls (0.25)
** Dealing Fourth street **
Dealt to JEFF_RO [ 8c ]
Dealt to Calibre44 [ 6d ]
Dealt to tfox3699 [ Kh ]
Dealt to SciFiHound [ 3d ]
Dealt to HERO [ 5d ] OK - 4 to low and 4 to straight, but it's not a great low - certainly isn't the best low showing, so I'll be happy to take the free card here with a marginal hand like this. You would not be incorrect to say I should have bet here…one can make a good case for either move.
Dealt to xBRUJOx [ Td ]
SciFiHound checks.
HERO checks.
xBRUJOx checks.
JEFF_RO checks.
Calibre44 checks.
tfox3699 checks.
** Dealing Fifth street **
Dealt to JEFF_RO [ 6c ]
Dealt to Calibre44 [ 9h ]
Dealt to tfox3699 [ 5c ]
Dealt to SciFiHound [ 9s ]
Dealt to HERO [ 4c ] I have to bet this hand out to drive out lows and make players going for high hands pay to draw out
Dealt to xBRUJOx [ Ks ]
SciFiHound checks.
HERO bets (1)
xBRUJOx calls (1)
JEFF_RO calls (1)
Calibre44 folds.
tfox3699 folds.
SciFiHound folds.
** Dealing Sixth street **
Dealt to JEFF_RO [ 9c ]
Dealt to HERO [ 3h ] Now, this is even better for me - I still have a straight, but I know from looking at the board that I can't be beat for low hand - I am just praying that xBRUJOx or JEFF bet out so I can raise this sucker
Dealt to xBRUJOx [ 2h ]
xBRUJOx checks.
JEFF_RO bets (1)
HERO raises (2) to 2
xBRUJOx calls (2)
JEFF_RO raises (2) to 3 JEFF is representing a flush here, and is correct to make xBRUJOx pay for any draws should xBRUJOx have a flush draw or 2 pair (drawing to full house)
HERO raises (2) to 4
xBRUJOx calls (2)He's paying a big price for his draw
JEFF_RO calls (1)
** Dealing River **
Dealt to HERO [ Kd ] The last card for me doesn't matter - I can't get high hand, but I can't be beat for low - let the squeezing continue!
xBRUJOx checks.
JEFF_RO bets (1)
HERO raises (2) to 2
xBRUJOx calls (2)
JEFF_RO raises (2) to 3
HERO raises (2) to 4
xBRUJOx calls (2)
JEFF_RO calls (1)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $29.50 | Rake: $1

JEFF_RO balance $19.75, bet $9.50, collected $14.75, net +$5.25 [ Qs Ac Qc 8c 6c 9c 5h ] [ a flush, ace high -- Ac,Qc,9c,8c,6c ]
hooker00 balance $24, lost $0.25 (folded) [ XX XX 7s ]
Calibre44 balance $24.75, lost $0.50 (folded) [ XX XX 8h 6d 9h ]
tfox3699 balance $29.63, lost $0.50 (folded) [ XX XX 4d Kh 5c ]
SciFiHound balance $26.87, lost $0.50 (folded) [ XX XX Ah 3d 9s ]
Kathy12345 balance $4.25, lost $0.25 (folded) [ XX XX Kc ]
HERO balance $33, bet $9.50, collected $14.75, net +$5.25 [ 7c 6h 8d 5d 4c 3h Kd ] [ LO: 7,6,5,4,3 | HI: a straight, four to eight -- 8d,7c,6h,5d,4c ]
xBRUJOx balance $15.25, lost $9.50 [ Ad 2d Qd Td Ks 2h 2s ] [ three of a kind, twos -- Ad,Ks,2d,2h,2s ]

4 to flush, and doesn't hit - these are the types of hands that will drive you nuts and cost you a ton of $$$$ when you don't hit - we love chasers like this in this game, especially when they're calling with the 3rd best high hand!
 
t1riel

t1riel

Legend
Yes, very good post. There is no need to post it twice. You have the same post in another forum on here.

In response to your comment on the river, "I can't get high hand, but I can't be beat for low - let the squeezing continue!" I disagree. You have a straight which is a good chance for the high hand and sure enough it was. Congrats on the scoop. Be careful in the future when chasing hands in stud, that's when you lose most of your money when you do it for a long period of time. Chase every once in a while if it's probably the best hand your drawing to.
 
BKrywko1

BKrywko1

Rock Star
Yes, I had a straight, and theoretically a chance to scoop here (I didn't...JEFF's flush took high hand to split with my low), but if JEFF has only 2 pair or a draw here, he's not raising and capping the pot here. No, sometimes you know when you're only getting half the pot, which is fine when someone else is the one getting jacked out of their chips.

This table wasn't very imaginative in its play (unless you consider players betting and calling down all the way with a pair of 3s imaginative play), and JEFF wasn't a very aggressive player until he made his hand...which is how most Stud/8 players are, actually.

Keep in mind that this is $0.50/$1 Stud/8 at Party, certainly one of the easiest games to beat - capping a pot here only with a flush draw is a donkey play that can't be found even at this site.
 
t1riel

t1riel

Legend
BKrywko1 said:
Yes, I had a straight, and theoretically a chance to scoop here (I didn't...JEFF's flush took high hand to split with my low), but if JEFF has only 2 pair or a draw here, he's not raising and capping the pot here. No, sometimes you know when you're only getting half the pot, which is fine when someone else is the one getting jacked out of their chips.

This table wasn't very imaginative in its play (unless you consider players betting and calling down all the way with a pair of 3s imaginative play), and JEFF wasn't a very aggressive player until he made his hand...which is how most Stud/8 players are, actually.

Keep in mind that this is $0.50/$1 Stud/8 at Party, certainly one of the easiest games to beat - capping a pot here only with a flush draw is a donkey play that can't be found even at this site.

Oh, I didn't see that. Sorry. I like the play after the turn. When you have a lock on the low, you raise as much as you can and hope you cap it. Stud Hi/lo can be very complicated, much like Omaha Hi/Lo. Maybe I'll create a Stud Hi/Lo sit n go tournament on Prima next time after the Omaha Hi/Lo tomorrow.
 
BKrywko1

BKrywko1

Rock Star
Is Stud H/L even offered on Prima? Last time I was there a few months ago, that game wasn't offered. :(
 
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