€400 NL HE Full Ring: Did I play this hand correctly? (Small overpair)

[kdmeteor]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Stakes

$2/$4

Table Format

Full (8-10 seats)

Currency

€

Hi @ forum,

this was a hand played in a Casino. The villain (BTN) was a relatively young guy I'd seen for the first time that day, so I have no strong reads (though probably one of the better players just bc they didn't do obviously silly things).

Hero is in the Hijack with 9h9d, about 350€ stack. Everyone folds to Hero. Hero bets 12€ (3BB). BTN calls 12€ (with a stack of >350€); everyone else folds. Pot is now 30€.

Flop comes 7d4h2d. Hero bets 20€. BTN calls. (pot=70€.)
Turn comes 3c. Hero bets 50€. BTN calls. (pot=170€.)
River comes Ac. Hero checks. BTN bets 120€. Hero folds.

My thinking at the time was something like (a) people generally call too much, (b) one of the most plausible things my opponent could have called with is A? hoping for a straight, (c) my opponent probably has a ton of Aces in their range because of this which all beat me now, (d) they could also have a set or theoretically the straight (people don't raise that much), so (e) I'm probably behind against the range and should fold. But at the same time, it feels like a pretty easy bluff for the BN with lots of other stuff. How should I have played it?

 

[SrMartis]

I think the way you played it's fine.

But here's another line.

You don't know this guy, so you have no reads. In order to get some information, I probably try to get to the showdown with this hand.

If the bets this river, I think I could call to bluff catch him depending of the size of his bet.

 

[fundiver199]

I think your line is fine. The turn put out a wheel draw, so an ace or 5 are cards, you really dont want to see on the river. You could also check turn and then get sticky on most runouts.

 

[kdmeteor]

Alright, thanks!

In order to get some information, I probably try to get to the showdown with this hand. If the bets this river, I think I could call to bluff catch him depending of the size of his bet.

It'd have been nice to know what he does there for sure, but it was too much money for me to call for information.

 

[Station_Master]

I think the line is ok. Yes there are plenty of potential bluffs and it's almost mandatory to bluff with missed diamonds, but there is loads of value too, especially if he would take the nut flush draw for this size. 55 and any 5 gets there too

 

[fundiver199]

But at the same time, it feels like a pretty easy bluff for the BN with lots of other stuff. How should I have played it?

Yes there are plenty of potential bluffs and it's almost mandatory to bluff with missed diamonds

How many bluffs are there realistically going to be here, when Hero bombed the flop and bombed the turn? Maybe there are some floats on the flop, but surely they fold on the turn facing a bet of more than 2/3 pot? Which mean, that the only QJ or similar, which is left, is of diamonds exactly. And there are just not that many combos of those hands compared to the loads of combos of AX and 5X, which just got there and is betting for value.

If the opponent has a worse one pair hand like 88 or 76s, he is likely not going to turn that into a bluff. He is just going to check behind and take his showdown. And therefore its completely fine to check-fold this river as played. Sometimes it will go check-check, and then Hero usually win. But when Villain bet, Hero is usually beat and dont need to pay him off.

 

[Station_Master]

How many bluffs are there realistically going to be here, when Hero bombed the flop and bombed the turn? Maybe there are some floats on the flop, but surely they fold on the turn facing a bet of more than 2/3 pot? Which mean, that the only QJ or similar, which is left, is of diamonds exactly. And there are just not that many combos of those hands compared to the loads of combos of AX and 5X, which just got there and is betting for value.

If the opponent has a worse one pair hand like 88 or 76s, he is likely not going to turn that into a bluff. He is just going to check behind and take his showdown. And therefore its completely fine to check-fold this river as played. Sometimes it will go check-check, and then Hero usually win. But when Villain bet, Hero is usually beat and dont need to pay him off.

Yes I agree its check fold as there is loads of value. But there are loads of potential bluffs as 87s, 76s, 66, 88 should bluff, as well as KQd, KJd, KTd, K9d, QJd, QTd, JTd, so 25 potential combos. As you say they may not bluff but they ought to.

 

[gustav197poker]

A) I can believe what you say, based on your particular observation of the sequence.
B) Perhaps this is unlikely. Having Ax is too strong to play so passively preflop against a position like HJ.
C) I wasn't at that table so I assume you saw this player calling with those hands. Without knowing it, he could want to scare you with a river ace.
D) E) Correct in my opinion. Now your range is a bit limited for JJ+. I also think that the hands of value that could be played that way are 5X although there really aren't many combos playing that way.

 

[Aballinamion]

Hi @ forum,

this was a hand played in a Casino. The villain (BTN) was a relatively young guy I'd seen for the first time that day, so I have no strong reads (though probably one of the better players just bc they didn't do obviously silly things).

Hero is in the Hijack with 9h9d, about 350€ stack. Everyone folds to Hero. Hero bets 12€ (3BB). BTN calls 12€ (with a stack of >350€); everyone else folds. Pot is now 30€.

Flop comes 7d4h2d. Hero bets 20€. BTN calls. (pot=70€.)
Turn comes 3c. Hero bets 50€. BTN calls. (pot=170€.)
River comes Ac. Hero checks. BTN bets 120€. Hero folds.

My thinking at the time was something like (a) people generally call too much, (b) one of the most plausible things my opponent could have called with is A? hoping for a straight, (c) my opponent probably has a ton of Aces in their range because of this which all beat me now, (d) they could also have a set or theoretically the straight (people don't raise that much), so (e) I'm probably behind against the range and should fold. But at the same time, it feels like a pretty easy bluff for the BN with lots of other stuff. How should I have played it?

Well played hand, your mindset looks correct to me.