2nl KT facing river bet.

[Lopos]

pokerstars Game #19306361136: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/08/02 - 17:33:31 (ET)
Table 'Volans' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Artanis1000 ($6.29 in chips)
Seat 3: Hejlasse ($1.02 in chips)
Seat 4: Escobar789 ($2.03 in chips)
Seat 5: Philone01 ($4.08 in chips)
Seat 6: Hartbroke ($1.05 in chips)
Hejlasse: posts small blind $0.01
Escobar789: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Philone01 [Td Kd]
Philone01: raises $0.04 to $0.06
Hartbroke: folds
DreamTlLDead joins the table at seat #1
Artanis1000: calls $0.06
Hejlasse: calls $0.05
Escobar789: calls $0.04
*** FLOP *** [2d 5d Kc]
Hejlasse: bets $0.04
Escobar789: raises $0.04 to $0.08
Philone01: raises $0.66 to $0.74
Artanis1000: folds
Hejlasse: calls $0.70
Escobar789: calls $0.66
*** TURN *** [2d 5d Kc] [2c]
Hejlasse: checks
Escobar789: bets $0.24
Philone01: calls $0.24
Hejlasse: calls $0.22 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [2d 5d Kc 2c] [Ah]
Hartbroke is sitting out
Hartbroke leaves the table
Escobar789: bets $0.24

Im dead in this spot right? 100% fold?

 

[switch0723]

your getting like 12:1 on your money on the river so i call it just because he may show up with k,9, k,8 enough to warrant a call

 

[c9h13no3]

Pretty marginal call, but I think we have to make it. Too much $ in there.

Btw, why the large flop raise? Free cards benefit you, and you have a medium strength hand that you'd like to showdown. Also, you don't want to fold out weaker flush draws! You want to keep worse draws around to pay you off when a diamond hits.

I think people get a bit over-zealous with top pair/medium kicker + flush draw type hands. Its one thing if we have middle pair & we're not looking to use that for showdown value. But our hand beats a lot of stuff in a showdown in a passively played pot. While I don't mind your raise, I think calling might be a little better.

I'd only raise this against players who play stuff like 3Ts, since they'll pay any price to draw to their flush and can't be folded out.