$25NL; Set comes on the turn

NineLions

NineLions

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This is what happens when you're running good. This a couple orbits after the flopped straight.


Stacks: - BB with $24.05 - UTG with $17.60 - UTG+1 with $19.60 - UTG+2 with $14.05 - UTG+3 with $21.10 - CO with $5.90 - BTN with $36.50 - SB with $24.75
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Site: full tilt poker
Holecards:
* - BTN (Hero) is dealt 6♠ 6♦
(Sklansky group 6)
Preflop:
* - UTG+1 calls [$0.25]
* - UTG+3 calls [$0.25]
* - BTN calls [$0.25]
* - BB raises to $1 First, someone else builds the pot for you. This guy was 6/0, so he had a big hand to be raising.
* - UTG+1 calls [$0.75]
* - UTG+3 calls [$0.75]
* - BTN calls [$0.75]
* - Folds: 4
* - Potsize: $4.1
Flop: 4♦ 3♥ 10♦ But the flop is low, and no one bets out
* - BB checks
* - UTG+1 checks
* - UTG+3 checks
* - BTN
checks
* - Potsize: $4.1
Turn: 6♣ And I get a free card, which gives me a set
* - BB checks
* - UTG+1 bets [$1.25]
* - UTG+3 calls [$1.25]

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Now 2 people have shown interest. What do you do? Raise now, or wait until the river?
 
ChuckTs

ChuckTs

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I just raise here. It looks like someone's drawing, and we don't want them to do it cheaply. We could also get paid off big time from a slowplayed 33/44. If a 2/5/7 comes on the river, it could both kill our action from slightly worse hands, and kill our hand vs a straight.

I'd also take a stab at that flop fwiw. Everyone's too weak there.
 
NineLions

NineLions

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I'd also take a stab at that flop fwiw. Everyone's too weak there.

I did consider it, being in position. But I thought there was enough of a possibility that someone was slowplaying something at least, and who was waiting for someone to show interest. I'm intentionally playing more passive at FT when I don't have at least a medium hand because there seem to be a mixture of bad players who chase anything with players who watch too much TV and think making the big bluff is the way to play. I didn't want to get priced out of seeing a free card when I had the chance.
 
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Stacks: - BB with $24.05 - UTG with $17.60 - UTG+1 with $19.60 - UTG+2 with $14.05 - UTG+3 with $21.10 - CO with $5.90 - BTN with $36.50 - SB with $24.75
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Site: Full Tilt Poker
Holecards:
- BTN (Hero) is dealt 6♠ 6♦
(Sklansky group 6)
Preflop:
- UTG+1 calls [$0.25]
- UTG+3 calls [$0.25]
- BTN calls [$0.25]
- BB raises to $1
- UTG+1 calls [$0.75]
- UTG+3 calls [$0.75]
- BTN calls [$0.75]
- Folds: 4
- Potsize: $4.1
Flop: 4♦ 3♥ 10♦
- BB checks
- UTG+1 checks
- UTG+3 checks
- BTN
checks
- Potsize: $4.1
Turn: 6♣
- BB checks
- UTG+1 bets [$1.25]
- UTG+3 calls [$1.25]
- BTN raises to $4
- UTG+1 calls [$2.75]
- UTG+3 calls [$2.75]
- Folds: 1
- Potsize: $16.1
River: K♠
- UTG+1 checks
- UTG+3 checks


Okay, raised to $4, only the button. who intitated the raise, folded. K comes on the river; this may be a good card if someone now has 2 pair, but it may be a bad card as it may chase someone who only paired the ten on the flop and didn't bet. Checked to me, how much more can I get with a bet?
 
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soonerdel

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get some value out of it.. i would bet around $4.. that amount could look like your trying to steal the pot..
 
Schatzdog

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Bet at least 1/2 pot. Two guys in so someone has something, get max value.
 
NineLions

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Bet at least 1/2 pot. Two guys in so someone has something, get max value.

Yeah, that's what I should have kept in mind. I think I only bet $4, got one call by someone who happened to have KT, two pair on the river. Could have gotten more from him.
 
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whodatdare

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You need to raise this turn to about $4 or $5. Value bet this river 100% of the time with a hand like this. It'll increase your winrate drastically and a lot of players miss out in situations like this. Sets are very powerful hands and you need to get full value for them.
 
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