$200 NLHE Full Ring: $200 NLHE Full Ring: AQo in the SB facing a UTG open and UTG +2 cold call

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$200 NLHE Full Ring: $200 NLHE Full Ring: AQo in the SB facing a UTG open and UTG +2 cold call

Villain is fairly young and is a TAG but on the looser side.
Hero has been very tight and aggressive, never limping and only raising to enter the pot. This is a 9 handed game, and hero's VPIP is around 12-15%.

Live 1/3 game at the casino. Hero has 300 (effective stack).

UTG (villain) opens to 12, UTG +2 cold calls (tight aggressive player as well), hero 3 bets to 40 on the SB with AdQc. UTG and UTG+2 call.

Flop: Qh10d8s Hero leads for 40 (1/3 pot), villain calls, UTG +2 folds.

Turn: Kc Hero checks, villain checks back.

River: 6c Hero bets 25 into 200. Villain calls.

Some of my questions this hand:
1. Should I be raising larger preflop? I think 50-55 is more appropriate.
2. Should I be betting the turn or just check and fold to a bet? The king smashes villain's UTG range, and I have about a pot sized bet left going into the turn. The problem is if I have the king on the turn, I'm likely betting, so checking here could be picked up as extreme weakness by a good observant player.
3. I want to get a showdown, but don't want to call a large river bet, so I lead really small assuming villain wouldn't raise unless he had me crushed. Is this too easy to read that I have a weak hand? Maybe I should bet 70 into 200 instead of 25?
 
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Villain is fairly young and is a TAG but on the looser side.
Hero has been very tight and aggressive, never limping and only raising to enter the pot. This is a 9 handed game, and hero's VPIP is around 12-15%.

Live 1/3 game at the casino. Hero has 300 (effective stack).

UTG (villain) opens to 12, UTG +2 cold calls (tight aggressive player as well), hero 3 bets to 40 on the SB with AdQc. UTG and UTG+2 call.

Flop: Qh10d8s Hero leads for 40 (1/3 pot), villain calls, UTG +2 folds.

Turn: Kc Hero checks, villain checks back.

River: 6c Hero bets 25 into 200. Villain calls.

Some of my questions this hand:
1. Should I be raising larger preflop? I think 50-55 is more appropriate.
2. Should I be betting the turn or just check and fold to a bet? The king smashes villain's UTG range, and I have about a pot sized bet left going into the turn. The problem is if I have the king on the turn, I'm likely betting, so checking here could be picked up as extreme weakness by a good observant player.
3. I want to get a showdown, but don't want to call a large river bet, so I lead really small assuming villain wouldn't raise unless he had me crushed. Is this too easy to read that I have a weak hand? Maybe I should bet 70 into 200 instead of 25?



Thank you for posting

In the game you describe after a 4x open and a call your sizing OOP usually gets the results it got 2 calls. What was your expectation when you raised? This would help with understanding next steps.
The pot is 65 -28 to call for the first V that is 2.32-1 to call and if they do the second V is calling as well. Not a good sizing for getting folds with AQ OOP in this type of game vs standard V.

The data you would need to use to adjust bet size preflop in this spot is-

1 V's specific ranges- UTG what range do they open in this manner? A standard UTG2 open range by a tight player can have AQ dominated so raising larger is an issue as we really do not want to fold AQ but do not want to call a 4 bet from a tight player either due to SPR.

The issue with V2 TAG is what range did they play with a call vs UTG2? Why were they not isolating? What range would they iso raise? Would they ever Iso?

This is a good Equilab exercise where we estimate both ranges and look at AQoff equity vs 2 refined ranges based on specific villain tendencies not GTO.
Based on that equity estimate we decide if we need to raise larger to get one V to fold to steal equity for our hand if that is a realistic possibility.
I would much rather raise larger vs the original raiser being in late position or if the UTG2 was loose.
The problem with a raw equity estimate OOP is it is very difficult to realize our full equity post flop, so we would want to drop our equity estimate by 5% because of being OOP.

2 We want to have a good idea of how our V play post flop before we decide on bet sizing pre when OOP. So we should know that we will not be bluffed very often if we are going to build a big pot pre.
In this case the V played very passively post flop so that suggests the best strategy is keeping the SPR higher with hands like AQ preflop so your sizing was fine for this situation but you could consider calling OOP for even greater post flop SPR. Your sizing falls in the feeler raise range (we need to know this) to see how strong UTG2 was. No 4 bet means no AA KK QQ -AK?

Hope this helps
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Hope this helps
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In preflop you must make a bigger size, to punish V2's cold call range. You could go up to a size 55 since you are effective here.
On the flop I like your cbet. The board is bad for your opponents, so you have a huge range advantage here.
On the turn you can play check-raise if you want to block TPTK because the board has leaked some 2 pair combinations like QKs and KTs. If you want to bet the turn, you should pick something over 40% of the pot, to eliminate the marginal hands from a tight range.
As you played the turn, you can bluff the river, doing jam. You have good form to represent a strong hand in this texture. While UTG has a higher fold equity range, due to the turn check line. Some hands like JJ or 99 were in range V. While other combos like K9s need maximum pressure to have fold equity on the river.
Greetings.
 
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As you're OOP for the whole hand, I prefer a bigger 3 bet pf. Say to 55.

And while yes to both your turn and river actions looking weak and vulnerable, villain didn't punish you and you got to showdown. Well played!
 
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