$2 NLHE 6-max: Bad or good move to check-raise? (Two similar spots)

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Hand 1:
Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 5 players
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UTG (Hero): $2.09 (105 bb)
CO: $2.31 (116 bb)
BU: $1.96 (98 bb)
SB: $1.96 (98 bb)
BB: $2.73 (137 bb)

Villain Stats: 31/23/AF: 3/ 3B: 25 (26 hands)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with K J
Hero raises to $0.06, CO 3-bets to $0.21, 3 players fold, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.45) J 4 T (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.13, Hero raises to $0.36, CO calls $0.23

Turn: ($1.17) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.52 (all-in), CO calls $1.52



Hand 2:

Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 4 players
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UTG (Hero): $3.56 (178 bb)
BU: $2.13 (107 bb)
SB: $2.01 (101 bb)
BB: $2.08 (104 bb)

Villain Stats: 19/16/AF: 2/ 3B: 15 (647 hands)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with J 9
Hero raises to $0.06, BTN 3-bets to $0.17, 2 players fold, Hero calls $0.11

Flop: ($0.37) 5 9 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.18, Hero raises to $0.50, BTN calls $0.32

Turn: ($1.37) J (2 players)
Hero bets $0.68, BTN raises to $1.41, Hero raises to $2.89 (all-in), BTN calls $0.05 (all-in)



In both of these hands I defended pretty light against the 3-bet since in both cases the villains had a wide 3-betting range. Not sure if this was correct though, I think my equity is borderline or behind their ranges and I am OOP. Thinking I could have folded both of these pre.

On both of these flops I check-raise thinking that I have a low top pair and want to charge any over cards or draws and I don't mind taking down the pot right there if they fold. I think my equity is doing decent against their calling range. Are these bad or good spots for a check-raise?

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Both opponents flopped sets (JJ and 33)
 
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I think if both players are 3 betting light you don't want to chase them away with your good but not great hands.
I would much prefer check calling both hands on the flop and turn as they are in good shape against flop and turn bets,
 
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check raise on the flop, and very aggressive but if you are satisfied with the amount it was a great move.:jd4::cool:
 
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On the 1st hand, even at a 5 handed table, KJo is a loose open. Once you are 3 bet, that hand should be folded.
 
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If your going to checkraise to charge any flushdraws you need to be raising bigger.
 
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Check-raise situations are acceptable in both cases. But you put yourself in a terrible position by calling with marginal 3-bet hands and being left without a position on the flop. In this case, I would prefer to play through the bet and fold for a raise, because there are a lot of hands that we lose to. We can even lose to the top pair by kicker, sets, even against a draw with an overcard, we stand poorly. And this is not counting overpars, of which there are a huge number in the second case.
 
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