10 NL - was this too aggressive?

[dufferdevon]

And what could villain have post flop to shove?

pokerstars Game #20566216412: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/09/20 21:08:17 ET
Table 'Eurydike' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: radamn ($3.95 in chips)
Seat 3: Macko3000 ($7 in chips)
Seat 5: JONNYDONKS ($6.70 in chips)
Seat 6: djgolfcan ($9.65 in chips)
Seat 7: Flyboys007 ($5.90 in chips)
Seat 8: SarasGrammy ($5.85 in chips)
Flyboys007: posts small blind $0.05
SarasGrammy: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to djgolfcan [Jh Jc]
radamn: folds
Macko3000: calls $0.10
JONNYDONKS: raises $0.10 to $0.20
djgolfcan: raises $0.40 to $0.60
Flyboys007: folds
SarasGrammy: folds
Macko3000: folds
JONNYDONKS: calls $0.40
*** FLOP *** [5h 9s 2d]
JONNYDONKS: checks
Macko3000 leaves the table
djgolfcan: bets $1
JONNYDONKS: raises $5.10 to $6.10 and is all-in
Giack86 joins the table at seat #3
djgolfcan: ??

 

[Richyl2008]

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HAND #1
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poker stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG: $3.95 (39.5 bb)
MP: $7 (70 bb)
CO: $6.70 (67 bb)
Hero (BTN): $9.65 (96.5 bb)
SB: $5.90 (59 bb)
BB: $5.85 (58.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with J:heart: J:club:
UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, CO raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.60, 3 folds, CO calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.45) 5:heart: 9:spade: 2:diamond: (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $1, CO raises to $6.10 and is all-in


Use the converter please, since it makes the hands a lot easier to follow.
If you have some kind of information on the player, include that or say you have no reads. Sometimes when I get into situations like this I like to request time and go through the hand histories to find a big pot villain was involved in to see how light he gets his chips in. That can sometimes sway my decision from a fold to a call and vice versa.

Without reads I think I would probably make the call here. He could have a lot of different hands here really. Sets, pairs like 88 77, 1010 A9, 2 overcards like AK. I think most players would be inclined to ch/call this flop with their sets going for a ch/raise on the turn being that it is so dry, although there are some who like to play them fast. He's only got half a stack as well. I would also probably raise this to .80 preflop

 

[SavagePenguin]

I don't know if I'd call this.

If I have been bullying the table, it's an easy call. If I don't see him as fighting back in frustration, well, then he could be doing the ol' "slow-play-then-spew with Aces" trick, or he could have a set.

Really, beside a bluff, we're hoping he's stacking with A/9, or K/9. But with that check/shove, it makes me think he's doing a retarded trap.

Without any reads at $10NL... man... that's not an easy decision. $5.10 to win $8.55? Could the guy be doing this with TPTK enough to justify the call? I don't think he'd check/raise with just TPTK though.

I just smell A/A or K/K, or some retarded 9/5 sooted hand. You know, horribly played pre-flop played followed by premature ejaculation on the flop.

I'd fold. But I wouldn't be happy about it and I'd be a lot more likely to call next time.

Oh, and I *prefer* the raw hand history over the converted. I'm used to reading the raw hand history. And even though adding up the pot is nice for the converted hand, looking at it I assumed it was a 6-max game, not FR. That effects things. I think I call more often at a table 6-max players.

 

[joos]

he only had 67 bb preflop. I am not terribly excited about making this call but I still make it.

 

[dufferdevon]

Well, I called and he turned over 9 - 2 os for two pair and they held up.
I still can't believe he min raised pre flop with 9-2. That's what made me think he had A9 or just overcards.

 

[SavagePenguin]

Well, I called and he turned over 9 - 2 os for two pair and they held up.
I still can't believe he min raised pre flop with 9-2. That's what made me think he had A9 or just overcards.

Bah. He's a donk then and logical decisions hold less merit.
This is the kind of player who has big upswings followed by even bigger downswings.

I don't think it was a terrible call. I was just looking at cutting the losses as $2 instead of $7. As fishy as he seemed, I figured getting $2 back wasn't unlikely.

As for after the loss, just be glad that he's at your table, his confidence is up, and he has a lot of chips to win. Nom nom nom!

 

[Richyl2008]

Someone that plays like this will certainly stack off with less than 2 pair. He just happened to hit the top of his flop catching range.