$10 NL HE 6-max: Will Kings Hold?? WWYD?

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pokerstars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
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UTG: $17.86 (179 bb)
MP: $9.55 (96 bb)
CO: $12.44 (124 bb)

BU: $9.95 (100 bb)
SB (Hero): $10.68 (107 bb)
BB: $25.71 (257 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with K K
1 fold, MP raises to $0.35, CO calls $0.35, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to $1.35, 1 fold, MP calls $1, CO calls $1

Flop: ($4.15) 2 Q J (3 players)
Hero bets $1.30, MP raises to $2.90, CO raises to $11.09 (all-in), Hero calls $8.03 (all-in), MP calls $5.30 (all-in)

Turn: ($31.01) 8 (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($31.01) 7 (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $31.01 (Rake: $1.50)

Showdown:
CO shows 8 3 (a pair of Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 17%, Flop: 38%, Turn: 33%, River: 0%)

MP shows A Q (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 28%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 10%, River: 0%)

SB (Hero) shows K K (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 55%, Flop: 49%, Turn: 57%, River: 100%)

SB (Hero) wins $29.51

I took a good amount of time before deciding to call because the CO 3better was playing very loose. I was most worried about the MP having QJ but made the call and was lucky enough to hold. This was very refreshing, as I had lost some 80-20 all-ins just the other day with big pocket pairs. I wanted to share a big win for once :)

What would you have done?
 
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Preflop you should squeeze bigger, as you gave them too good a price.

On the flop the cbet is fine, versus raise and then another raise I think it's a fold without the player reads you mentioned. With the reads, you still have to worry about MP and got lucky that he just had AQ this time, so it's a very close decision and really depends how wide MP will raise, I would expect to see QQ and JJ often here.
 
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This is why low-stakes cash games still are about reading the players.

Normally I would often fold an overpair to so much aggression from two unknown players when we are so deep until I get an idea of what type of players they are.

BUT if you notice that they are willing to overbet low flush draws all in in a multiway pot and another player calls off his stack after two players are all-in with top pair top kicker you have to include KK and AA in your calling range.

Against one player it's a call all the time if he's not some stupid nit that always only overbets his monsters.

It's the combination of the raise on the flop in a 3-bet pot and then all-in that makes this hand so difficult.

But it is a drawy board and you don't get crushed by much more than JJ, QJ and sometimes QQ. 22 should not be in there but sometimes are.

I think with your read a call was right but not an easy spot multiway with an overpair.
 
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Preflop
As others have said, your 3-bet is very small, given that you are out of position against two opponents, and MP used an unusually (for online at least) open size of 3,5BB. As a default you can go 4X plus each cold caller, which in this case would mean 17,5BB. And then of course be willing to get it in against a 4-bet. If someone has AA, when I have KK, for around 100BB effective, its pretty much congrats, here is my money, unless its like the most crazy action ever in a full ring game.

Flop
C-bet is fine, and no need to go big, when the pot is so large already. The action behind is pretty wild, but the SPR is only a little more than 2, and you have an overpair. MPs raise is kind of silly, so I would mostly be worried about CO. And how many nut hands can CO realistically have? If he had QQ or JJ, he would most likely 3-bet proflop, and if he had Q2, J2 or 22, he most likely fold preflop. So we are probably only talking about 2 combos of QJs and then some sliver of the 6 combos of JJ-QQ. But then there is AQ, which makes total sense for him to have and play this way, as well as draws. So yeah... I would also get it in here, unless CO is a known nit.

Results
So CO did in fact have AQ, which I do not find surpricing at all. And you even managed to get your hold, which is always nice :)
 
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Thanks everyone for the input. I think my preflop 3betting/squeezing sizing is an area I need to improve on. If anyone has a good resource (video or article) for this let me know!

It may not have been the best way to play this hand but I am definitely very happy with the result haha :)
 
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PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
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UTG: $17.86 (179 bb)
MP: $9.55 (96 bb)
CO: $12.44 (124 bb)

BU: $9.95 (100 bb)
SB (Hero): $10.68 (107 bb)
BB: $25.71 (257 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with K K
1 fold, MP raises to $0.35, CO calls $0.35, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to $1.35, 1 fold, MP calls $1, CO calls $1

Flop: ($4.15) 2 Q J (3 players)
Hero bets $1.30, MP raises to $2.90, CO raises to $11.09 (all-in), Hero calls $8.03 (all-in), MP calls $5.30 (all-in)

Turn: ($31.01) 8 (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($31.01) 7 (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $31.01 (Rake: $1.50)

Showdown:
CO shows 8 3 (a pair of Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 17%, Flop: 38%, Turn: 33%, River: 0%)

MP shows A Q (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 28%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 10%, River: 0%)

SB (Hero) shows K K (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 55%, Flop: 49%, Turn: 57%, River: 100%)

SB (Hero) wins $29.51

I took a good amount of time before deciding to call because the CO 3better was playing very loose. I was most worried about the MP having QJ but made the call and was lucky enough to hold. This was very refreshing, as I had lost some 80-20 all-ins just the other day with big pocket pairs. I wanted to share a big win for once :)

What would you have done?
Considering that both of players go all in OTF I would have called as well. Preflop I would like to make a larger sizing squeeze but this is okay.
 
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