Mike Postle case dismissed?!

Just reading that the Mike Postle case has been dismiss and Mike along with Justin Kuraitis and Kings Casino being acquitted?

There's no justice in the world. How is poker supposed to clean up it's image when decisions like this are being made?

You don't need to be a nose-bleed stakes player to see that this was as obvious as night and day that he had inside information.

What are everyone else's thoughts?

It's not what you KNOW, it's what you can PROOVE.

time to hit the streets in protest
or at least let kings know we didn't like that crap.

CardsChat has an article here >>> Case Dismissed: California Judge Tosses out Cheating Lawsuit Against Mike Postle

That's what happens when you make public allegations on YouTube instead of making a formal complaint to the FBI about your suspicions of being the victim of organised criminal activity.

That's sad news, I watched quite a few YouTube videos in the past about this case(especially those made by Joe Ingram) and you would need to be blind not to see that this guy was cheating... I at least thought that the casino will compensate the players that lost money because of this 'scheme'...

zinzir said:

That's what happens when you make public allegations on YouTube instead of making a formal complaint to the FBI about your suspicions of being the victim of organised criminal activity.

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Whoa! You might be on to something Zinzir!

But basically the court that they filed in just doesn't handle these types of cases. Who knew?

If you cheat the casino in black jack - then yes the casino can file against you in Calif state court. But not player on player. Interesting.

The plaintiffs won't stop though - they will keep filing until they get a trial.

And people tell me that poker is gambling! Pffftt!!

Not Acquitted - California Law to Blame

zinzir said:

That's what happens when you make public allegations on YouTube instead of making a formal complaint to the FBI about your suspicions of being the victim of organised criminal activity.

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The problem had nothing to do with public allegations. The problem was California law and their archaic law that will not allow damages for legal or illegal poker.

Also, he was not acquitted in the slightest (as said in the OP). Most of the charges were simply dismissed because of California law.

Yep - very surprising but I was not familiar with the laws in California.

Gobbs23 said:

The problem had nothing to do with public allegations. The problem was California law and their archaic law that will not allow damages for legal or illegal poker.

Also, he was not acquitted in the slightest (as said in the OP). Most of the charges were simply dismissed because of California law.

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This ^^

The article explains it well enough for me

Case Dismissed: California Judge Tosses out Cheating Lawsuit Against Mike Postle

I definitely think the casino circuit should ban him. Proof would be to sit him down at another casino and watch him play. This is insane, i can’t actually believe I’m reading this.
I can’t remember who it was, if it was lu who called him down with A9o! That guy made my day

gday all...just seen the utube videos...unreal..california laws have to be amended to current day..hopefully casinos can ban him....

zinzir said:

That's what happens when you make public allegations on YouTube instead of making a formal complaint to the FBI about your suspicions of being the victim of organised criminal activity.

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Poker_Mike said:

Whoa! You might be on to something Zinzir!

But basically the court that they filed in just doesn't handle these types of cases. Who knew?

If you cheat the casino in black jack - then yes the casino can file against you in Calif state court. But not player on player. Interesting.

The plaintiffs won't stop though - they will keep filing until they get a trial.

And people tell me that poker is gambling! Pffftt!!

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Agreed he might have a point. If they lodged a complaint maybe it would have started an investigation and possibly made it a federal case. Bypassing California's law system altogether, and possibly gathering more evidence.

Side note...you'd think the lawyer the hired would have known the law in the state. Maybe he did and was trying to set a precedent.

Hope they are able to refile and something gets done.

LJG23 said:

Agreed he might have a point. If they lodged a complaint maybe it would have started an investigation and possibly made it a federal case. Bypassing California's law system altogether, and possibly gathering more evidence.

Side note...you'd think the lawyer the hired would have known the law in the state. Maybe he did and was trying to set a precedent.

Hope they are able to refile and something gets done.

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Found in the article (a few posts up)

On Thursday, Las Vegas attorney Mac VerStandig, who filed the case in California, said that he would be back in court.

Hi there.I hope that the lawsuit in Las Vegas will have a different result.It is hard to believe a player with 94% of win rate and no mistakes in his difficult decisions during a live session.

LJG23 said:

Agreed he might have a point. If they lodged a complaint maybe it would have started an investigation and possibly made it a federal case. Bypassing California's law system altogether, and possibly gathering more evidence.

Side note...you'd think the lawyer the hired would have known the law in the state. Maybe he did and was trying to set a precedent.

Hope they are able to refile and something gets done.

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I agree with you.

I don't know the laws pertaining to this.

But it doesn't really seem like it is not really a subjective interpretation of law.

Or that it is a new thing.

I don't know that it really sets precedent - but again I don't know for sure.

Luckily - I'm not apart of this mess!

jaymfc said:

time to hit the streets in protest
or at least let kings know we didn't like that crap.

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Good idea, Jay! And while we're at it, let's also hit a store or two. I'm thinking of a new refrigerator for myself

If it doesn’t end up that he is out of pocket, the guy should just get banned all over the world.
This should definitely be able to set precedent.
I hate the guy and I don’t know him, ruining the game I love.

If you are a cheater, you have no self-respect and if you get caught you will be looking over your shoulder the rest of your life.
smallfrie says get some self-respect and take your wins and losses fair and square.:fight::beer:

Despite numerous questions addressed to the judge, it is said that the judge rejected all claims against Postl. He did give attorneys for Brill and the other plaintiffs 20 days to amend some of the complaints against Stones and Kuraitis.

Postle

Matt_Burns88 said:

Just reading that the Mike Postle case has been dismiss and Mike along with Justin Kuraitis and Kings Casino being acquitted?

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Not sure if Postle cheated, but looking at some of the videos where he is playing, he does look suspicious. Either way, I don't think he'll be invited to many private home games in the near future. If he sits at a table at a casino, players may just get up and leave. If they don't they should.

zinzir said:

Good idea, Jay! And while we're at it, let's also hit a store or two. I'm thinking of a new refrigerator for myself

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ROTFLMAO :laugh:

Okay, so I finally paid attention to this situation. I'm just like wow!

You could probably dismiss Mike Postle's body language. We've all seen a lot of strange body language from players trying to keep from giving off any tells. Maybe there is nothing to the fact that he holds his phone in his lap. After all there is supposed to be a rule against having your phone at the table. Even if it isn't being strictly enforced, why flout it? Maybe he is just this incredible player. Maybe it's just that he's played with these particular players so many times that he has become familiar with them and has developed reads on them. When you look at any one of these things by itself, you might be able to dismiss it. But when you look at them all together, it all begins to look, as they say, curiouser and curiouser.

So very disappointed, but I don't think it is the end of it.:damnmate:

Shells said:

The article explains it well enough for me...

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Has anyone asked Penn & Teller how the cheating was accomplished?

A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven.
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