Small Pocket pairs, when do you call?? with a hand range on your OP????

The past 2 to 3 weeks this has been playing hard on me.
Your in a game and you know your OP to play a hand range of 99+ AT+
at any point would you call a 3X to 5X raise, or an all-in with lower PP.

If i know someones a tight player i will fold low PP, so am i doing the right thing or not.

knowing what you said you knew i think you are doing the right thing. PP under 10-10 are bad news. Then no sure thing.

kidkvno1 said:

The past 2 to 3 weeks this has been playing hard on me.
Your in a game and you know your OP to play a hand range of 99+ AT+
at any point would you call a 3X to 5X raise, or an all-in with lower PP.

If i know someones a tight player i will fold low PP, so am i doing the right thing or not.

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Its like everything in poker it depends. Stack sizes and player reads are pretty essential, really if a 3/3 nit is raising and your in the blinds with a hand like 22, if you are deep then folding is out of the question. If you are playing an MTT in the mid stages with <25bb then really you should be folding.

If your unsure post hands that your are unsure of in HA

Play them if you can see flop for the set mine without being pot committed or your opponent is at least 30 bb deep.

tenbob said:

Its like everything in poker it depends. Stack sizes and player reads are pretty essential, really if a 3/3 nit is raising and your in the blinds with a hand like 22, if you are deep then folding is out of the question. If you are playing an MTT in the mid stages with <25bb then really you should be folding.

If your unsure post hands that your are unsure of in HA

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Even if the Flop has higher cards then what your holding?

If this is about the hand that played out in the team league, just post the hand and get other opinions. Just dont show the result. Ask what you should have done, what advice can others give you. Afterwards after the results are shown. Ask what others would have done if they were villain. Or what villain was thinking when he made his play.

kidkvno1 said:

Even if the Flop has higher cards then what your holding?

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If this is a specific hand then just post it. You mean how correct is it to float oop with a small pair post flop ? Pretty bad tbh, but if your against a villian who c-bet ~100% of the time then it isnt as bad as it first looks.

Small Pairs Hole Cards.

Small Pairs Hole Cards:
I experience this frequently and according to the betting I will try to call to get trips via the flop. If I do, strategy changes. If I do not, again depending on calls I have a decision. I've won many hands with low pairs in the hold and keeping an eye on other players attitudes/betting.
Boston1993

Are we talking about SnG's or MTT's? What stage? If you are at the final table or in a sng it's almost never right to call all in with a low PP, since ICM equity has to be considered.

For a small raise, I'd call only really early on (for implied odds) or if I could put villain on a very small range to the point where I could tell the strength of his hand post-flop.

Small Pocket pairs are great when deep stacked, horrible when short stacked.

I'm sure you know that if you are maybe 60bb+ deep then calling a raise with low pocket pairs can have huge implied odds when you hit your set.

When you are short stacked however the reverse is true. We are not getting the odds to set mine as we will only hit our set once every seven times.

Playing for stacks with low pocket pairs is almost always horrible as in the best case you will only be a slight favorite. Against a higher pocket pair you will be an 80/20 underdog and against over cards you will be at best 55% favorite to win.

Compare this to playing for stacks with AKo. Against a pocket pair lower than KK you will be a 45% underdog, against AQ you are 75% favorite and against JTs you are still a 58% favorite.

I think you should only be looking to play these in multi-way pots if possible and as cheaply as possible. I don't like calling with pocket pairs below 10 10 with just one raiser (unless I'm in the blinds, maybe). How often are you going to get that player to stack off and justify the implied odds? Not enough, I don't think. I want a raiser with preferably 2 callers afterwards - a) you're getting better pot odds. b) if there are 3 other players in the hand, it's much more likely that at least one has hit the flop hard enough for you to get paid.

i've loosen up a bit with my small PP. i play them mostly with a cheap flop and sometimes up to 3xBB, depending on the table, blinds, stages, opponents, your chip stack, your position. these are all things to take into consideration.

some opp's play them like they're a sure thing. and that's so wrong. i know with my over pair and thier small PP i've doubled up plenty of times.

so when i play them it's cautiously, unless i hit a set. hahaha but sometimes that doesn't work, lol.

Well it's more then one hand, they are near SNG games, one MTT game.
I got 3 hands in 2 i was called with low PP and both times they hit a set on the river of flop, the other time i was looking at an all-in from the SB of 500 chips vs me of 2K, i had 22 which i folded coz my thinking any over cards and i was beat.
I guess you could say we were short stacked when i shoved in the MTT but it meant that he would have to call for 3/4s of his stack.

Most of the time i will fold low PP to an all-in, knowing what hands the one is shoving on.

Yeh shoving and calling for stacks are two completely different things. Shoving give you so much fold equity it can sometime balance things out, depending on stack sizes of course. Calling for your stack with a low pocket pair is real bad...