some hands from today's crds and the fall

I made a set I think I played well


pokerstars, Hold'em No Limit - 15/30 - 8 players
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Sergius4444 (UTG): 2,970 (99 bb)
BertJonger (UTG+1): 5,905 (197 bb)
InKey777 (MP): 2,355 (79 bb)
shpiller199 (MP+1): 5,656 (189 bb)
PosFlopALLIN (CO): 7,549 (252 bb)
RINART (BU): 4,965 (166 bb)
Nussknacker04 (SB): 2,690 (90 bb)
novin2210 (BB): 2,970 (99 bb)

Pre-Flop: (45) Hero (PosFlopALLIN) is CO with 2♣ 2♠
1 fold, BertJonger (UTG+1) calls 30, InKey777 (MP) raises to 60, shpiller199 (MP+1) calls 60, PosFlopALLIN (CO) calls 60, RINART (BU) calls 60, 2 players fold, BertJonger (UTG+1) calls 30

Flop: (345) 2♥ 4♦ 9♦ (5 players)
BertJonger (UTG+1) checks, InKey777 (MP) bets 345, shpiller199 (MP+1) folds, PosFlopALLIN (CO) calls 345, 2 players fold

Turn: (1,035) 8♥ (2 players)
InKey777 (MP) bets 518, PosFlopALLIN (CO) calls 518

River: (2,071) 9♥ (2 players)
InKey777 (MP) bets 1,432 (all-in), PosFlopALLIN (CO) calls 1,432

Total pot: 4,935

Showdown:
InKey777 (MP) shows J♠ J♦ (two pair, Jacks and Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 13%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

PosFlopALLIN (CO) shows 2♣ 2♠ (a full house, Twos full of Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 87%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

PosFlopALLIN (CO) wins 4,935




then this AKo I played well too... actually I think this AQKo was even before ...


PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - 10/20 - 9 players
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BertJonger (UTG): 5,940 (297 bb)
InKey777 (UTG+1): 2,780 (139 bb)
shpiller199 (MP): 2,970 (149 bb)
PosFlopALLIN (MP+1): 3,598 (180 bb)
nikita1160 (LP): 2,512 (126 bb)
Nussknacker04 (CO): 2,950 (148 bb)
rozsaf888 (BU): 3,260 (163 bb)
novin2210 (SB): 2,980 (149 bb)
Sergius4444 (BB): 3,000 (150 bb)

Pre-Flop: (30) Hero (PosFlopALLIN) is MP+1 with A♣ K♦
2 players fold, shpiller199 (MP) calls 20, PosFlopALLIN (MP+1) raises to 160, nikita1160 (LP) calls 160, 5 players fold

Flop: (370) A♠ T♣ 4♦ (2 players)
PosFlopALLIN (MP+1) checks, nikita1160 (LP) bets 360, PosFlopALLIN (MP+1) calls 360

Turn: (1,090) T♦ (2 players)
PosFlopALLIN (MP+1) bets 676, nikita1160 (LP) raises to 1,992 (all-in), PosFlopALLIN (MP+1) calls 1,316

River: (5,074) 4♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 5,074

Showdown:
nikita1160 (LP) shows A♥ 3♠ (two pair, Aces and Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 27%, Flop: 13%, Turn: 3%, River: 0%)

PosFlopALLIN (MP+1) shows A♣ K♦ (two pair, Aces and Tens - higher kicker)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 73%, Flop: 87%, Turn: 97%, River: 100%)

PosFlopALLIN (MP+1) wins 5,074



and then the fall that I was irresponsible is that free ... and the guy shoves me ???? nor tribet simply allin of AA I found nexus I paid wrong ...look what a weird limp move i raise him allin ...


PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - 50/100 - 9 players
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RINART (UTG): 8,523 (85 bb)
Nussknacker04 (UTG+1): 5,225 (52 bb)
ra-kref (MP): 7,668 (77 bb)
novin2210 (MP+1): 4,400 (44 bb)
Sergius4444 (LP): 2,850 (29 bb)
BertJonger (CO): 5,895 (59 bb)
koca kolnan (BU): 5,085 (51 bb)
Wasley Reis (SB): 6,515 (65 bb)
PosFlopALLIN (BB): 9,397 (94 bb)

Pre-Flop: (150) Hero (PosFlopALLIN) is BB with K♣ A♠
1 fold, Nussknacker04 (UTG+1) calls 100, 3 players fold, BertJonger (CO) calls 100, koca kolnan (BU) calls 100, 1 fold, PosFlopALLIN (BB) raises to 550, Nussknacker04 (UTG+1) 3-bets to 5,225 (all-in), 2 players fold, PosFlopALLIN (BB) calls 4,675

Flop: (10,700) Q♣ K♠ 9♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (10,700) 4♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (10,700) 6♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 10,700

Showdown:
Nussknacker04 (UTG+1) shows A♦ A♥ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 93%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 75%, River: 100%)

PosFlopALLIN (BB) shows K♣ A♠ (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 7%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 25%, River: 0%)

Nussknacker04 (UTG+1) wins 10,700

PosFlopALLIN said:

I made a set I think I played well


PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - 15/30 - 8 players
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Sergius4444 (UTG): 2,970 (99 bb)
BertJonger (UTG+1): 5,905 (197 bb)
InKey777 (MP): 2,355 (79 bb)
shpiller199 (MP+1): 5,656 (189 bb)
PosFlopALLIN (CO): 7,549 (252 bb)
RINART (BU): 4,965 (166 bb)
Nussknacker04 (SB): 2,690 (90 bb)
novin2210 (BB): 2,970 (99 bb)

Pre-Flop: (45) Hero (PosFlopALLIN) is CO with 2♣ 2♠
1 fold, BertJonger (UTG+1) calls 30, InKey777 (MP) raises to 60, shpiller199 (MP+1) calls 60, PosFlopALLIN (CO) calls 60, RINART (BU) calls 60, 2 players fold, BertJonger (UTG+1) calls 30

Flop: (345) 2♥ 4♦ 9♦ (5 players)
BertJonger (UTG+1) checks, InKey777 (MP) bets 345, shpiller199 (MP+1) folds, PosFlopALLIN (CO) calls 345, 2 players fold

Turn: (1,035) 8♥ (2 players)
InKey777 (MP) bets 518, PosFlopALLIN (CO) calls 518

River: (2,071) 9♥ (2 players)
InKey777 (MP) bets 1,432 (all-in), PosFlopALLIN (CO) calls 1,432

Total pot: 4,935

Showdown:
InKey777 (MP) shows J♠ J♦ (two pair, Jacks and Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 13%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

PosFlopALLIN (CO) shows 2♣ 2♠ (a full house, Twos full of Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 87%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

PosFlopALLIN (CO) wins 4,935




then this AKo I played well too... actually I think this AQKo was even before ...


PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - 10/20 - 9 players
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BertJonger (UTG): 5,940 (297 bb)
InKey777 (UTG+1): 2,780 (139 bb)
shpiller199 (MP): 2,970 (149 bb)
PosFlopALLIN (MP+1): 3,598 (180 bb)
nikita1160 (LP): 2,512 (126 bb)
Nussknacker04 (CO): 2,950 (148 bb)
rozsaf888 (BU): 3,260 (163 bb)
novin2210 (SB): 2,980 (149 bb)
Sergius4444 (BB): 3,000 (150 bb)

Pre-Flop: (30) Hero (PosFlopALLIN) is MP+1 with A♣ K♦
2 players fold, shpiller199 (MP) calls 20, PosFlopALLIN (MP+1) raises to 160, nikita1160 (LP) calls 160, 5 players fold

Flop: (370) A♠ T♣ 4♦ (2 players)
PosFlopALLIN (MP+1) checks, nikita1160 (LP) bets 360, PosFlopALLIN (MP+1) calls 360

Turn: (1,090) T♦ (2 players)
PosFlopALLIN (MP+1) bets 676, nikita1160 (LP) raises to 1,992 (all-in), PosFlopALLIN (MP+1) calls 1,316

River: (5,074) 4♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 5,074

Showdown:
nikita1160 (LP) shows A♥ 3♠ (two pair, Aces and Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 27%, Flop: 13%, Turn: 3%, River: 0%)

PosFlopALLIN (MP+1) shows A♣ K♦ (two pair, Aces and Tens - higher kicker)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 73%, Flop: 87%, Turn: 97%, River: 100%)

PosFlopALLIN (MP+1) wins 5,074



and then the fall that I was irresponsible is that free ... and the guy shoves me ???? nor tribet simply allin of AA I found nexus I paid wrong ...look what a weird limp move i raise him allin ...


PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - 50/100 - 9 players
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RINART (UTG): 8,523 (85 bb)
Nussknacker04 (UTG+1): 5,225 (52 bb)
ra-kref (MP): 7,668 (77 bb)
novin2210 (MP+1): 4,400 (44 bb)
Sergius4444 (LP): 2,850 (29 bb)
BertJonger (CO): 5,895 (59 bb)
koca kolnan (BU): 5,085 (51 bb)
Wasley Reis (SB): 6,515 (65 bb)
PosFlopALLIN (BB): 9,397 (94 bb)

Pre-Flop: (150) Hero (PosFlopALLIN) is BB with K♣ A♠
1 fold, Nussknacker04 (UTG+1) calls 100, 3 players fold, BertJonger (CO) calls 100, koca kolnan (BU) calls 100, 1 fold, PosFlopALLIN (BB) raises to 550, Nussknacker04 (UTG+1) 3-bets to 5,225 (all-in), 2 players fold, PosFlopALLIN (BB) calls 4,675

Flop: (10,700) Q♣ K♠ 9♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (10,700) 4♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (10,700) 6♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 10,700

Showdown:
Nussknacker04 (UTG+1) shows A♦ A♥ (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 93%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 75%, River: 100%)

PosFlopALLIN (BB) shows K♣ A♠ (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 7%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 25%, River: 0%)

Nussknacker04 (UTG+1) wins 10,700

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Thank U 4 Posting

This is just about hand 1 the set.
I have not seen past the flop yet.

Preflop fine.

Flop
I think there are better strategies in this spot than just calling a pot size raise.

Any A K Q on turn can over set you.
You are giving pot odds to to the 2 remaining players to call with flush draws.
Any 35678 can give the other 2 players an over set if they call. All small pairs are possible holdings by your V's in this spot
As played preflop we cannot expect either of the 2 players left to act to raise for us.
Any Ace or King could kill our action.
Any flush card could kill our action.
The 9 or 4 pairing could kill our action.
A 6 could kill our action.

By our action I mean getting stacks in vs say JJ.
(I had not looked at the results when I typed this. I am previewing the post before I submit it and noticed this)

Our Villain cannot auto fold if we raise because they have to think we have flush draws.

This is a perfect place to fast play bottom set.



I will now look past the flop.

Turn you call again.

V bets 518 making the pot 1555 and V has 1432 left. The V has stack committed themselves with this bet with any value hands and most of their draws.
When you shove the pot will be 3500 ish 1432 call
V will fold what that we get value from on the river?

If V has AdKd and the river is a black 5 how much of V's stack will we get?

If V has 99 and river is a black 5, do we fold to a shove?

If V has KK and the Ace hits river do we get the 1432?

So do we lose the max and win the minimum by calling turn in several scenarios?

If the flush card comes and V shoves do we just call?

If we fold can we be sure it was correct?

Do we ever bluff?

If so should we not be shoving this turn to protect our bluffs in future hands?

I will now look at the river.

Thank you by the way for using the cardschat replayer it allows me to not see the results as I evaluate each street.
Also thank you for posting as this allows me to think deeply about this type of situation without have to wait to be in it myself.

The river

After answering the questions I posed earlier would you still say you played well or that the V played poorly?

You stated you played well, my perception of your play is that you merely hit a set and called. I do not see how your passiveness affected this players play in this spot. Being passive is an effective play but after thinking about the ranges I describe above do you think it was effective vs a wider range? Would my suggestions not also get max value from JJ as well as a wider range?

This player shoved when the top pair paired which is a likely holding for you. V would not have gotten any value from any missed draws on the river and most 2 or 4 single pair hands should have folded turn if not river.
Had the V had AdKd you could have gotten the stack on turn. Also KdQd KdJd AdQd and so on.
Would this V not have gone all in on the turn with JJ but if the river was an Ace possibly check folded to your shove?

I think you could have played this hand in a way that got more value from more of the V's possible range without endangering losing value in this spot. If you conclude that that is correct you may wish to adjust how you play bottom set on a 9 high flush draw board vs
most of your villains.

Hope this helps

As for the last hand its mostly just a standard cooler. If the guy with AA has played his hand properly, he would also have stacked you. He open, you 3-bet, he make a small 4-bet, you call. You flop TPTK, and the rest of the chips goes in after the flop. By making this bizarre limp-jam, he only achieved to give you a chance to get away. And while I dont blame you for calling, I do think, the best decision would have been to fold. He will not always have AA, but often he will be going crazy with some medium pocket pair like 66-88. And the issue is, that while these are not premium hands, they are still somewhat ahead of AK. So I would much rather make this call with a hand like JJ.

First hand is fine - I personally raise the flop to start pulling value from sticky 9x combos, flush draws and overcards - all other hands are folding anyways so I try to get my money all in as soon as I can when I am this strong.

2nd hand our preflop raise is waaaaay too big. We can go 90-100 here and still get the same results but 160 is just entirely too big and screams out our hand strength. The fact A3o even called is a miracle, we should be folding out almost alllll worse Ax combos when we go this big. Anyhow, once we do get called I like the check to induce - worked out perfectly! Made it seem as tho you had KK or some other underpair. So nice job salvaging the hand.

3rd hand nothing we can do. I am not folding AK preflop. We block the hell out of AA and KK, we just happened to run into this time. No big deal, such is poker.