$11 NLHE MTT: 89s UTG

This is another hand for the how would you play it series:
This will be a play by play hand, we have no stats on the villian in the CO.


Big $11, 9 players
Blind Level 30/60/8

Hero UTG $11,827
CO $4,626

Hero is holding 8♦ 9♦

Preflop:
Hero raises to $138,4 folds, CO raises to $450, 3 folds, Hero ??

This one is easy.

Fold pre-flop.

As played: fold to the 3-bet.

Avoid playing low-middle suited connectors out of position.

I agree with pentazepam. This is simply to loose of a open with so many people left to act behind. And since we should not even have opened the hand, its below the bottom of our range, and therefore an easy fold to a 3-bet.

Fold will be better than call in 60bbs eff stack. You can call this if he stack will be same

Fold to the 3 bet. Sure you might flop a monster every now and then but more often than not you'll flop bottom pair OOP and be put in a tough spot. Avoid this by not opening this hand in the first place and definitely not calling the 3 bet.

For me, UTG at a 9 handed table, 98s is an easy fold.

As played, fold to the 3 bet.

Action as it went:

Preflop:
Hero raises to $138,4 folds, CO raises to $450, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: ($1,062, 2 players) 8♣ T♥ A♣
Hero checks, CO raises to $350, Hero ??

CC nits at it again. It's standard open from UTG, why would she fold it? vs 3bet it's fold OOP and call IP. On the flop it's fold.

EvertonGirl said:

Action as it went:

Preflop:
Hero raises to $138,4 folds, CO raises to $450, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: ($1,062, 2 players) 8[emoji814] T[emoji813] A[emoji814]
Hero checks, CO raises to $350, Hero ??

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All his blufs vs your hand have around a 45-50% equity. And vs his value you have around 15-20% equity. Your equity vs his range i think 30-35%. He give you good chance of bank to call flop, but on the turn around 100% of his range will be betting again. IP we can call here for balancing or exploiting, but OOP i will folding and will be play next hand.

I love opening up with these hands in early pos

As played: Fold to Flop C Bet.

Action as it went:

Flop: ($1,062, 2 players) 8♣ T♥ A♣
Hero checks, CO raises to $350, hero calls.


Turn: (1,762, 2 players) 5♥
Hero checks, CO checks.


River: (1,762, 2 players) Q:spade:
Hero??

What should we do here, bet out, if so how much?? What is your thought on Villain checking back on the turn??

EvertonGirl said:

Action as it went:

Flop: ($1,062, 2 players) 8♣ T♥ A♣
Hero checks, CO raises to $350, hero calls.


Turn: (1,762, 2 players) 5♥
Hero checks, CO checks.


River: (1,762, 2 players) Q♠
Hero??

What should we do here, bet out, if so how much?? What is your thought on Villain checking back on the turn??

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Hi! Hi! I do not agree to fold this hand pre-flop as others have advised, I like suited connectors and if we have a multi-bank, then this is definitely a good hand for postflop. But in this situation, we do not see a multipot and the villain decided to re-raise, so I think it is a fold. You have too little outs on the flop, to make a call; if you caught a draw, it would be a check raise, but in this case, you haven draw, it is easy fold. On the river, your hand has completely lost strength since the street has closed, in addition, the opponent can have two pairs or one over pair, since the range of most tag / lag players have this hands in the range.

P.S I hope, I was able to convey the meaning of the thought, since I feel that the translator this time failed.

River: (1,762, 2 players) Q♠
Hero raises to $1,181, 1 fold

i think you should be folding 9 high UTG at a 9 handed table

liuouhgkres said:

CC nits at it again. It's standard open from UTG, why would she fold it?

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If you can show a database, where suited connectors from EP actually make a profit over 100k hands or more, then more power to you. For me they did not, and why would I continue to open hands, that are losing me money? I normally open 98s from HJ, but not from any seat earlier than that.

I personally will raise 98s from UTG, but it does depend on tables, if I am on a very passive table and deep stacked I would be more inclined to limp it than raising it, but obviously if I am playing a more solid table then I am raising 98s, that is my bottom range of SC that I would consider raising with in EP

EvertonGirl said:

Action as it went:

Preflop:
Hero raises to $138,4 folds, CO raises to $450, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: ($1,062, 2 players) 8¢À T¢¾ A¢À
Hero checks, CO raises to $350, Hero ??

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We flopped a pair, and we are getting a good price, so I guess, I am reluctantly calling. But the whole spot frankly sucks. There is not much from a normal 3-betting range, which we really beat here. Even if he has a hand like KQ or KJ, he has 2 overs and a gutshot, and he has position.

EvertonGirl said:

Action as it went:

Flop: ($1,062, 2 players) 8¢À T¢¾ A¢À
Hero checks, CO raises to $350, hero calls.


Turn: (1,762, 2 players) 5¢¾
Hero checks, CO checks.


River: (1,762, 2 players) Q¢¼
Hero??

What should we do here, bet out, if so how much?? What is your thought on Villain checking back on the turn??

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Some of the few hands, we were beating up until this point, just rivered a straight or a pair. You definitely can not check-call, and even if he check back, he will usually show you a better one pair hand. So I guess, I dont mind turning your hand into a bluff trying to get him off a better one pair hand, that is not an ace. It ended up working, so nice hand

Fold utg.... when I I donk open I fold to 3bets....

If you're hell bent on playing TV's hand... limp, flat opens... or get crazy and 3bet oop repping the top top of your range...

But you're better off folding.

brucesmall said:

Fold utg.... when I I donk open I fold to 3bets....

If you're hell bent on playing TV's hand... limp, flat opens... or get crazy and 3bet oop repping the top top of your range...

But you're better off folding.

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The hand*

And reason for the limp instead of open is it looks stronger....

Just fold tho.

It was bad bet on the river. This card gives the villain more better hands than you. What do you do against his push/raise with AQ or AT?

About what you discuss here people?
Here is only one right way to move --> fold preflop, event don't open 89s from UTG, everything after call preflop is consequence that decision, hard (hah) to fold third pair without any draws.

pentazepam said:

This one is easy.

Fold pre-flop.

As played: fold to the 3-bet.

Avoid playing low-middle suited connectors out of position.

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I could not give a better answer if I tried. I second this over and over and over.