€1 NLHE MTT: Thoughts on this hand?

SB: 17.71 BB (VPIP: 36.00, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 25)
Hero (BB): 95.5 BB
UTG+1: 20.38 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)


8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has Qs Qh
fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 4 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, UTG+1 calls 3 BB

Flop : (13 BB, 3 players) 5d 7c 4s
SB checks, Hero bets 8.66 BB, UTG+1 calls 8.66 BB, SB calls 8.66 BB

Turn : (38.98 BB, 3 players) 3s
SB checks, Hero bets 9 BB, UTG+1 calls 7.59 BB and is all-in, SB calls 4.93 BB and is all-in

River : (59.08 BB, 3 players) 7h

I put both players on non-paired Broadway cards or middle pairs. Top pairs like KK or AA would've probably shoved postflop and so would any middle pairs hitting the board in my opinion. Any thoughts?

utg is between tag and lag in my opinion so wouldn't be a shocker to see A6 or 66 (A6 more likely than 66 from this position but there are always donks about)just calling you down SB seems loose passive so really could have any two cards but he's calling so he must have something
they only had to call 2 bets to be all in if a villain calls that flop and then the 4 straight hits the board i would have to check and assess after their action on the turn even though in this case they more than likely would have shoved after i checked but i still would feel better folding on that turn against 2 people one of them has the 6

ps. i'm just learning to read HUDs can someone tell me if i'm reading that correctly

Haemophile said:

utg is between tag and lag in my opinion so wouldn't be a shocker to see A6 or 66 (A6 more likely than 66 from this position but there are always donks about)just calling you down SB seems loose passive so really could have any two cards but he's calling so he must have something
they only had to call 2 bets to be all in if a villain calls that flop and then the 4 straight hits the board i would have to check and assess after their action on the turn even though in this case they more than likely would have shoved after i checked but i still would feel better folding on that turn against 2 people one of them has the 6

ps. i'm just learning to read HUDs can someone tell me if i'm reading that correctly

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UTG +1 did indeed play pretty loose that hand, SB was pretty tight though. I felt like they were pot committed so they would've been calling with high cards most of the time.

Why are you just calling here with QQ pre, and basically giving the utg limper odds to call with just about atc.

Given the two players in the hand with you and their stack size, I probably just ship this pre ... you obv have the big stack (of the table I dunno, but have them well out chipped) and sb committed about 25% of his stack with the raise so I just reshove to keep the utg limper out of the mix with his potentially Arag or suited connected type hand.

With big pairs its better to be against a single opponent then multiple, and on that flop your big pair shrinks vs two others.

You need to 3bet preflop and isolate any marginal/speculative hands.

Agree with Joee.

It is good move to 3bet preflop to pull out all the limpers.

Then you can speculate which hands you are against.

Shove pre. Flop/Turn play itself.

Haemophile said:

ps. i'm just learning to read HUDs can someone tell me if i'm reading that correctly

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Sample sizes matter. You have 4 hands on UTG+1 which is entirely meaningless.
You have 25 hands on SB which is giving you a general idea, but nowhere near enough to make an accurate statement. You can assume SB is going to be a semi-tight fish, but you can't be sure yet.


I've had sessions where I was 83/67 after 20 hands and I've had sessions where I was 4/0 after 100 hands. I'm closer to 20/14 in reality.


As for this hand, I'm probably making it 21bb preflop. Give them a decision for their stacks.

TimovieMan said:

Sample sizes matter. You have 4 hands on UTG+1 which is entirely meaningless.
You have 25 hands on SB which is giving you a general idea, but nowhere near enough to make an accurate statement. You can assume SB is going to be a semi-tight fish, but you can't be sure yet.


I've had sessions where I was 83/67 after 20 hands and I've had sessions where I was 4/0 after 100 hands. I'm closer to 20/14 in reality.


As for this hand, I'm probably making it 21bb preflop. Give them a decision for their stacks.

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This! Fully agree with the final statement also.

effective stack is 21bb simple restill from bb

AI pre, raise pre is second option, but according to villane stack size, plus position, just jam it in. Imo

Before reading the comments i think:

UTG may have broadway cards, suited connectors or a small pair like 22+ to 66-, entering the pot in hope to get a lot of value by flopping a set, straight or flush draw.
SB has a really wide range here because he is punishing a limper so depends on how tight or loose he had been playing, he can have Axs, A4+o, suited or unsuited broadway cards, any pocket pair and suited connectors 9T+
So i think your better move is to shove pre or shove on the flop but the second is more dangerous. SB can also have AA and KK, less likely, thats why is secure move shove pre.
Youre in a dangerous spot vs 2 callers on a flop like that. No flush draws but a lot of straight draws or even a flopped straight. I would have checked that flop and waited, if UTG bets a lot then fold. If UTG bets little i call and see if he bets again on the turn.

Will also help to know the level of the tournament, average stack and stage (early, middle, bubble, etc)
So how did that came out?