$4 NLHE Full Ring: Button flats my 3-bet from the blind - what does his range look like??

$4 NLHE Full Ring: Button flats my 3-bet from the blind - what does his range look like??

Been a while since I posted a hand, trying to get back in the habit, so here's a fun one...

Merge - $0.04 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: $3.71
UTG: $4.17
UTG+1: $5.88
MP: $6.63
CO: $4.40
BTN: $6.16
Hero (SB): $4.00

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero has As Kd

fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.11, Hero raises to $0.24, fold, BTN calls $0.13

Flop: ($0.52, 2 players) Kh 5c Qs
Hero bets $0.34, BTN raises to $1.14, Hero???

I put his range on Kxs, and some non-suited Kx as well. Obviously he can still have the weird QQ+ or 55, but not often. Do you think he's ever doing this with air or mid-pocket pairs?

Can't really give any ideas about his range without stats, specifically steal and 3bet stats.

What I will say is I think your 3bet pre is much too small, i prefer like 40c min, shortens his odds to call (we're giving him 3-1 here with 24c) and makes the SPR smaller on the flop. Im not sure about shoving over or calling the 3bet though, calling keeps his range wide and lets him keep betting w/e we beat, its a 3bet pot so i'd normally snapstack TPTK but with it being a small 3bet its a bit of a weird one for me.

orangepeeleo said:

Can't really give any ideas about his range without stats, specifically steal and 3bet stats.

What I will say is I think your 3bet pre is much too small, i prefer like 40c min, shortens his odds to call (we're giving him 3-1 here with 24c) and makes the SPR smaller on the flop. Im not sure about shoving over or calling the 3bet though, calling keeps his range wide and lets him keep betting w/e we beat, its a 3bet pot so i'd normally snapstack TPTK but with it being a small 3bet its a bit of a weird one for me.

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Ditto.
Not feeling great about it but I'm stacking this vs non-nits as their range will be so much wider than normal due to the baby 3bet. At 2NL with that sizing we can probably see enough JT maybe a rare AJ/AT hands here.
This doesn't even feel like a 3bet pot, 24c would be my standard raise size vs two limpers.

Assuming villain never folds (not true at all so our equity is better than this) and giving the following negations JT - 50%, QQ+ - 1/6, AK - 3/16 We need to put in $3.42 to win $4.60 so need $3.42/($3.42 + $4.60) = 43% equity.

Board: Kh 5c Qs
Hand 0: 59.007% { AhAs, KhKs, QhQs, 55, AcKc, KQs, JcTc, JdTd, AcKs, AdKs, AhKs, KQo, JcTd, JdTc, JhTc, JhTd, JsTc, JsTd }
Hand 1: 40.993% { AsKd }

Much closer than I thought it would be but I think given our non 0% fold equity this is a shove. Naturally if we have stats that villain is a nit or even a fairly conservative tag we fold as JT is far less likely. This stoving rests very heavily on my 50% JT negation though which is very much arguable.

3bet bigger pre yeah to like .40

As played call flop and let him bet turns

Might be getting this shit, deco agrees and I would have taken the same line as Jake, defining moment in my HA career lol

Just echoing that your 3bet is way too small.

Yeah - just to clarify: I know the 3bet is too small. Sorry, should have mentioned in the OP that I mis-typed my sizing in. Meant 34c I think, not 24c.

Also, in terms of stats, my HUD was flipping out. Can't remember what info I actually had handy (the HUD was flickering, turning off, etc), but I'll throw a few more stats up.

I know that his raise first in from LP was 40% (not a huge sample, but decent). His fold to 3bet was 70%, but only over 10 hands. ATS was 42%.

34c is still to small imo. 40-45 here would be my standard 3bet size OOP.

WVHillbilly said:

34c is still to small imo. 40-45 here would be my standard 3bet size OOP.

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Hmm. Ok, duly noted!