$200 NLHE Full Ring: Live $1/$2- facing four bet and call with Ako; advice needed

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$200 NL HE Full Ring: Live $1/$2- facing four bet and call with Ako; advice needed

$1/$2 in a Live Casino Setting. Juicy, but a head game for me. I need help with my decision on this hand. I question some of my underlying assumptions/thought processes here. Not a complex hand but I pour ove rmy thought process (probably too muh lol). Thanks for any comments.

I am at the table for maybe 3 hours. First hand I played I had shown down jj which I played pretty weak heads up but got to show down. Anyway, my image is fairly tight aggressive, but looking young and prone to be put on a bluff. I have everyone at the table covered at this point.

Hand starts with the middle aged business man raising to $10 UTG with about 110 total behind. He played tight over the course of the 3 hours and was basically mumbling about being run down whenever it happened and had rebought twice I think due to what he perceived to be donk action (and there was a lot of it). He was weak tight I would say.

I pick up AKo in middle position and make it $30 to go. My thinking here honestly was pretty simple, casino play us ultra weak and therefore I bet my hands hard. If the business man came over the top, I would have had to fold I was thinking. This portion I think can be attacked, but please do so knowing the context of the live $1/$2 casino game.

From my left, the young agrressive semi crazy short stack shoves all in for $78 from the CO. This kid had run down qq with q7 earlier in the night. He basically knew what he was doing but was not playing great poker in my opinion and had shown a propensity to gamble. The table folds around to the UTG initial raiser. My thinking at this point is that it I can probably call his four bet if UTG folds. I was thinking the CO kid had picked up KQ, K10 even and was gambling, AQ, Aj, and at best was holding qq or jj).

But then Mr. Weak UTG smooth calls leaving $36 behind and I am left with the decision to call $48 in a $234 pot. Right before he called he said something to the effect of "well, let's see a flop I guess."

My math is not great on the fly I'll be honest, but I estimated I was getting 4-5 to 1 on my money. I was mind boggled by him leaving $36 behind and I folded.

What does UTG's comment mean to you and would it affect your readin any way?
What do you think of my 3 bet given the context of the game? context of the players?
Should I have called? (notwithstanding the outcome that will follow in 24 hours, or late tonight if I can get some feedback)

I bet you can guess what each guy was holding if you are better than me lol.
 
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IMO you should have called because you were already in for 30 and you were getting pretty good odds to call the rest. The UTG might have simply called and left the 36 in the hole to ensure he had money left if he didn't hit (if he had a premium hand JJ or better I would have to think he would have just pushed all in himself, you're not going to let that become a 3 way pot by just calling).
 
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you pretty much gotta get it in here
 
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If you are playing at your limits (as I hope so), i think you should calling this... you have some pretty odds, probably they both was holding pairs in my opinion.
 
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AK vs 10 10 vs AQ would be my guess.

I figure the UTG is weaker then you...you have to at least call for the odds here. A maniac is a maniac, you are at worst a coinflip - possibly hugely ahead.
 
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CO had Aqo and UTG had Ako. Flop brought the irrelevant case A. I should have called.

thanks for the posts guys. i knew i made an error
 
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You have to call, I don't know what the problem is. Maybe just push UTG all in too.

Even if your up against 2 small pairs, you have the odds to call.


My guess would be UTG A10+ and manic has a small pair 22-88.
 
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