$2 NLHE 6-max: TT pre-flop

poker stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

BTN: $2.00
SB: $2.00
BB: $2.77
UTG: $2.14
Hero (MP): $3.80
CO: $1.31

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with T T
UTG raises to $0.07, Hero calls $0.07, 2 folds, SB calls $0.06, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.23) 3 T 3 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.06, SB raises to $0.23, UTG folds, Hero calls $0.17

Turn: ($0.69) 3 (2 players)
SB bets $0.53, Hero raises to $1.38, SB raises to $1.70 all in, Hero calls $0.32

River: ($4.09) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

What do you do pre-flop? I have no information about the players because is a zoom table.

With no notes or stats I dont mind the flat preflop. bet bigger on flop. As played the rest is fine IMO

runnerx289 said:

With no notes or stats I dont mind the flat preflop. bet bigger on flop. As played the rest is fine IMO

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I did a small bet on flop because I want they call me and think that I just was stealing.

taas said:

I did a small bet on flop because I want they call me and think that I just was stealing.

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Thats not enough of a reason.

If you think you are ahead you should bet to put value in the pot. You want to make sure that you are not giving worse hands good odds to call you. With such a small bet, it actually might be correct for him to just call there with a lot of hands. You win at poker when you force your opponents to make mistakes, or at least give them the opportunity to make them.

If you bet around the size of the pot there, any call that is a draw is making a mistake in calling. That is good for you, because that will ultimately make you money.

Betting small because you want them to think its a steal... not great reasoning to bet. Make sure when you bet it is either to get value for your good hands (make a worse hand call) or to bluff (to get a better hand to fold). You can potentially combo those, but ultimately those are the only reasons. To make him think I am stealing is neither for value or to bluff... its just kinda ... meh.

Here there are no draws, but in general that is what you should be doing.

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Also in this spot, if someone has any piece of this or even just a pair they are never folding. If someone has nothing they are not likely to call even a small bet.

Bet bigger.

have a feeling villain had 3x otherwise hand isnt posted with a question about what to do preflop.its a cooler if thats the case and as ubercross has explained your big mistake in this hand is betting so small on the flop. If he had 3x he got lucky , but you would have made much more on average across all turn and river possibilities by betting bigger and getting stacks in while villain was behind.

one of micro players biggest leaks is not folding enough (especially at 2nl) , so exploit that leak by betting bigger with your monsters not worrying whether they will call or not.

Uber has it covered as played.
I would add Preflop flatting is ok but shows the dangers of just calling and opening the way to squeezing and multiway pots.
with TT at 6 max you could consider 3betting to get heads up in position shutting out the guy in the blinds who might tag along with A3 suited.
3 betting defines the play somewhat and imo makes poker easier to play as it gives you more information about what range you are facing. Calling gives you no information. TT is one of the toughest hands to play post flop and the more you define your opponents range the better.

Figaroo2 said:

Uber has it covered as played.
I would add Preflop flatting is ok but shows the dangers of just calling and opening the way to squeezing and multiway pots.
with TT at 6 max you could consider 3betting to get heads up in position shutting out the guy in the blinds who might tag along with A3 suited.
3 betting defines the play somewhat and imo makes poker easier to play as it gives you more information about what range you are facing. Calling gives you no information. TT is one of the toughest hands to play post flop and the more you define your opponents range the better.

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+1. Also as played after a 3 bet by the villain in the flop I wouldn't hesitate to GII.. 3 on the turn is a cooler if the villain had a 3x hand...

No reason to bet that little on flop. Just build up a pot. Bet standart 3/4

taas said:

I did a small bet on flop because I want they call me and think that I just was stealing.

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Stop thinking like this. It's counter-productive. You're trying to get a bit value from hands that have little potential to pay you off for much, at the cost of significantly reducing the value you get from hands that will pay you off for more.

Sure, it works sometimes - when a weak opponent stays in and improves on the turn to a hand that will pay you off big. But this happens only infrequently, and sometimes, they improve to a hand that beats you, which is a disaster since you lose a big pot when betting properly would have meant winning a modest one.

taas said:

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

BTN: $2.00
SB: $2.00
BB: $2.77
UTG: $2.14
Hero (MP): $3.80
CO: $1.31

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with T

T

UTG raises to $0.07, Hero calls $0.07, 2 folds, SB calls $0.06, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.23) 3

T

3

(3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.06, SB raises to $0.23, UTG folds, Hero calls $0.17

Turn: ($0.69) 3

(2 players)
SB bets $0.53, Hero raises to $1.38, SB raises to $1.70 all in, Hero calls $0.32

River: ($4.09) 4

(2 players - 1 is all in)

What do you do pre-flop? I have no information about the players because is a zoom table.

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Normally I would give villain a tighter range from UTG here, but assuming villain knows what the word "position" means is probably presumptuous.

I think its good if we raise to isolate here, make it .18c or there about, though flatting isn't horrible, it just means its more likely we're going to see a multi way flop, which isn't so great for our TT.

We need to be betting more for value on the flop, closer to .18c I think. When SB raises us they are telling us that they like their hand so we should be aiming for stacks here on the flop, I don't understand the flat call, if villain is raise bluffing us then we probably aren't getting any more action from villain regardless of what we do, so we should be aiming for value against 3s and pocket pairs.

The turn is ok, but we need to be aware of our villains stack size, making it $1.38c here tells me that you weren't aware of villains stack which can cause a lot of problems in different spots. Either that or it was a miss-click.

I just got little lucky in my hand,,,,

Hand Converted by Ace Poker Drills Poker Training Software

NL Holdem $0.5(BB)
SB ($86.81)
BB ($95.62)
HJ ($19.25)
HERO ($55.05)
BTN ($43.02)

Dealt to Hero A:heart: 7:heart:

HJ Folds , HERO Raises To $1.5 , BTN Folds , SB Calls $1.25 , BB Calls $1

Flop ($3.75) 3:heart: 3:diamond: K:heart:
SB Checks , BB Checks , HERO Bets $3 , SB Folds , BB Calls $3

Turn ($9.75) 3:heart: 3:diamond: K:heart: A:club:
BB Checks , HERO Bets $3 , BB Calls $3

River ($15.75) 3:heart: 3:diamond: K:heart: A:club: 7:club:
BB Checks , HERO Bets $14.25 , BB Calls $14.25

Should we 3bet with TT? I normally don't only on the odd chance i'll do it to mix things up... But should this just be standard?

3 betting with TT will makes it less likely that CO or BTN will come along in the hand, if we flat and then CO or BTN flat, then we are out of position in a three, maybe four way pot with only TT, this turns strong pre-flop hand into a marginal hand post flop, no matter what the flop is (excluding tens) our hand will not be able to stand any sort of pressure from any of our opponents.

By raising pre flop we are able to get more money into the pot against a worse player with position while cutting down on the chance of playing our hand in a multi-way pot, even if villains range is stronger than our hand (which is by no means guaranteed) I believe we will be able to make better decisions in all situations vs villain, and thus making the whole hand more profitable in the long run.

I think you did okay here. You can 3bet sometimes preflop, but really a flat is fine and the hand worked out.

also aces2win, 3betting TT preflop is like, extremely standard. TT is miles ahead of a random players opening range.
let me put it this way,
if I was at 2nl and a player with .90 cents open shoved UTG, I would like 3bet shove to ISO with a hand like TT. That might seem Ludacris but it's extremely profitable.