100 NLHE Full Ring: correct to get in here?

Seat 1: CO £275
Seat 2: Hero BTN £165
Seat 3: SB £45
Seat 4: Villain 2 BB £92
Seat 5: Villain 1 UTG £425
Seat 6: UTG+1 £175
Seat 7: MP £60
8/9 empty

Both villains are extremely loose aggressive, and in a constant battle to outplay the other. both players have been showing big bluffs, big hero calls with ace high, all in with top pair + gutshot vs lower pair plus oesd

Villain 1 raises to £3 UTG, MP calls, CO calls, Hero on BTN calls with , sb folds, BB raises to £12, UTG calls, MP folds, CO calls, BTN calls.

4 Players to flop pot £51.50

Villain 2 checks, Villain 1 leads for £25, CO folds, BTN calls, Villain check raises all in for £80, Villain 1 min raises to £160, Hero tanks, decides that whilst, sets, 2 pairs, and other flush draws and other straight draws are in there ranges, so is alot of air from Villain 2, and even as low as top pair for either of those guys even for a pot this big, calls all in for remainīng £128.

Pot size £437

Turn , River

Hero wins with straight.

Villain 1 mucked, but later told me that night that he had , Villain 2 shows

Obviously great, I won the pot, but was i getting correct odds tō call all in?

Yes. You flopped huge in a 3-bet pot, so getting it in there is fine.

Just keep in mind that against LAGgy players, you need to tighten up preflop. KJs might be worth a 3-bet, and it's certainly one of the worst hands you'd flat against a LAG. You need to be 3-betting their raises liberally. Against a LAG, you play few hands, but you force them to put lots of money in preflop. Their holdings just can't stand up to a strong range early in the hand.

Yep re-raising flop and coming over the top...

Even if they have a set you got enough equity in the hand to make the call or throw in those chips.

Just make sure your bankrolled for that level and you'll have no problems making these huge varience +ev moves.

c9h13no3 said:

Yes. You flopped huge in a 3-bet pot, so getting it in there is fine.

Just keep in mind that against LAGgy players, you need to tighten up preflop. KJs might be worth a 3-bet, and it's certainly one of the worst hands you'd flat against a LAG. You need to be 3-betting their raises liberally. Against a LAG, you play few hands, but you force them to put lots of money in preflop. Their holdings just can't stand up to a strong range early in the hand.

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wow, I thought the flat was okay because I had position. so if i 3bet, i guess taking the betting lead can give me other ways to take the pot down postflop, hit or miss?

Yep re-raising flop and coming over the top...

Even if they have a set you got enough equity in the hand to make the call or throw in those chips.

Just make sure your bankrolled for that level and you'll have no problems making these huge varience +ev moves.

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forgot to mention it was a live game in the casino on a friday night, plenty of drunks to play with. I'm a country mile off 100NL online

wildice13 said:

wow, I thought the flat was okay because I had position. so if i 3bet, i guess taking the betting lead can give me other ways to take the pot down postflop, hit or miss?

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Not as much as you would think. Against loose/aggressives you want to c-bet less, since they'll be less likely to fold to your c-bets. But yes, on certain flops you can still c-bet and get them to fold.

so the 3bet is simply for value with KJ being ahead of most of what they will put money in the pot with

wildice13 said:

so the 3bet is simply for value with KJ being ahead of most of what they will put money in the pot with

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He opened UTG with T9s, you tell me

will definitely go for it when i see a similar spot, thanks! probably my biggest leak is playing vs. lags live.

Just make sure it doesn't effect u when the hand doesn't complete your straight or flush