Originally Posted by ChrisMurray
Pre-flop: I would really like to know if you have any data on the villain. With the action as it is, an UTG raise and then a small 4-bet after you've squeezed, this looks really strong. I think we can fold this against a passive player because we'll run into a range of exactly KK+ too often against them. We definitely want to shove against a LAG player because he's pot-committed himself with (what's probably) a wider range of hands.
Against an unknown or TAG player this is honestly a tough spot. I don't like calling though, and calling becomes awful if you're going to fold on this flop. If that's what you're doing, you're basically paying 40% of your stack to set-mine/hope that he doesn't c-bet.
I'm probably folding here against unknown players to be honest. He's just taken a very strong line/sizing. At best we're flipping here I think, and a decent chunk of the time we're going to be well behind. Folding can't be that bad of a play here.
Yeah as you all pointed out to me its probably a bad thing to call this 4-bet and then fold on that flop. The thing is that I don't have any record on the villain and it was zoom poker, so people tend to play weird sometimes. I just found it so hard to ever fold QQ preflop, and thought that if I called to see a flop that was low like the one I got, I could figure out what hand he had based on him checking back to me or betting the flop.
In retrospective I probably have to either shove or fold, just make my play preflop I guess. He could very well have AK, but that's the best hand I could hope to meet. I'm pretty sure he had AA or KK, but who knows, it's a hard spot.
Anyways thanks for the replies, at least I learned that I played my hand pretty bad afterall :P