$10 NLHE Full Ring: AQ again 10nlhe

$10 NL HE Full Ring: AQ again 10nlhe

pokerstars, $0.05/0.10 NO Limit Texas Holdem Cash Games, 9 Players
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Board:
jumeriah 04 (UTG): $6.15
DerneiG (UTG+1): $13.45
matsyendra (MP1): $10.85
Bedemon (MP2): $6.30
CoolHandKai (CO): $9.70
yaro304 (Button): $6.70
tallonn88 (SB): $9.95
jmaxsparty (BB): $3.45
MOBE15 (MP4): $2.40

Dealt to matsyendra A:spade: Q:spade:

Pre-flop:
MOBE15 calls $.10, (2 folds), matsyendra raises to $.40, (2 folds), yaro304 calls $.40, tallonn88 calls $.35, jmaxsparty calls $.30, MOBE15 calls $.30

Flop: ($2) 5:heart: K:diamond: 9:heart: (5 Players)
tallonn88 checks, jmaxsparty checks, MOBE15 checks, matsyendra checks, yaro304 checks

Turn: ($2) A:club: (5 Players)
tallonn88 checks, jmaxsparty checks, MOBE15 checks, matsyendra bets $.80, (2 folds), jmaxsparty calls $.80, MOBE15 calls $.80

River: ($4.40) J:heart: (3 Players)
jmaxsparty checks, MOBE15 checks,


No real reads on either player, less than 25 hands. When I replayed it I was appalled at my turn bet. I hope it was a misclick. I think it should have been in the 2/3 - 3/4 pot size range.
Is this a situation that would warrant an overbet shove on the turn given the opponents stacks?
Do I bet the river here?
Thanks all

Any stats on villains?

Obviously you know turn bet is horrible, but importantly you get two callers. I can't imagine neither of them have a heart, but I would have expected one of them to bet their heart of the river at least...

I'd check it down instead of going for the bluff, as you're 3 hand and a pot sized bet would have to work at least 1/2 the time 3 handed to be profitable and I just can't see you not getting called down by 7h, 8h, etc

Turn, I'm not sure to be honest. I'm torn between a bad spot on the river vs the short stacks if they're drawing and getting pot committed vs the deeper stacks.
I just bet 2/3 pot, call a re-raise shove from anyone but the SB.

River, value bet here (checking is a huge leak, imo).

Pascal LeFiscal said:

Any stats on villains?

Obviously you know turn bet is horrible, but importantly you get two callers. I can't imagine neither of them have a heart, but I would have expected one of them to bet their heart of the river at least...

I'd check it down instead of going for the bluff, as you're 3 hand and a pot sized bet would have to work at least 1/2 the time 3 handed to be profitable and I just can't see you not getting called down by 7h, 8h, etc

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I think you misread the Kd for the Kh, it's only 3 to a flush. Any river bet would be for thin value, not a bluff.

Ah, yes I did

Oops

No real stats as only 25 hands in with these guys. SB was pretty loose, 32 vp 0 pr. Can you explain more why a rover check is a big leak?
Im thinking a bet here is only being called with a better hand. In a small pot like this I dont mind checking TPGK, especially after the ruinous turn bet.
Thoughts?

Checking is a leak because you're getting called by weaker A's and depending on villain fishiness or your aggressivenes, K's as well.

Yeah there are two pair hands and flushes that may be attempting a c/r (they shouldn't, but they will), call that off vs short stacks and fold to SB again if he shoves (pot odds + possible bluffs and random stupidity).
Since none of them has repped any of these hands yet, assume it's just a battle of one pair hands until one of them tells you otherwise.

You're almost always ahead at this point, against a nit you can check it back but since these guys will check/call weaker hands, value bet.

Understood. Checking the river, which I did, is scared poker. SB made the flush.