$10 NLHE Full Ring: $10NL: 3 bet by LAG

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$10 NL HE Full Ring: $10NL: 3 bet by LAG

Villain is something like 55/33 at this table. Is this still anything but a fold pre?


poker stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (MP1): $10.35 (103.5 bb)
MP2: $10 (100 bb)
MP3: $9.85 (98.5 bb)
CO: $22.90 (229 bb)
BTN: $13 (130 bb)
SB: $6.70 (67 bb)
BB: $1.85 (18.5 bb)
UTG+1: $5.50 (55 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP1 with 9
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9
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UTG+1 raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, MP2 calls $0.30, MP3 folds, CO raises to $1.30, 4 folds, Hero ....
 
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what is his 3bet%?
And the # of hands the sample is for. There's a lot of dead money in the pot, and playing 6-max, I almost auto-jam this against anyone with a reasonably high 3-bet percentage (7+). Full ring, I have no idea.
 
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Well, by the end of the session AF was 1.6, 3 bet 18, total hands only 47. Also steal of 50%.
 
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Well, by the end of the session AF was 1.6, 3 bet 18, total hands only 47. Also steal of 50%.

That's an absurdly high 3bet even if it is a small sample. combined with the 55/33 i think it's very safe to say he's 3 betting light... however light here is usually going to mean we are flipping or way behind (possibly he's 3betting any pp which means there's some chance we are way ahead too, but somewhat less likely).

I fold this here I think FR, however I wouldn't entirely hate jamming it though it will be a high variance play. The small sample size makes me lean towards fold a bit more. If he had a 3b anywhere near that high with a larger sample I think you could jam away with more confidence.

If he had 3b to say .90 or less you could flat it and play poker from there but I don't really like flatting that size a raise against someone you probably can't push off anything.
 
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If this were like CO/button/blinds I would definitely snap get this in. But when you're UTG+1 I just don't think you're ahead a ton here. I just fold here.
 
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If this were like CO/button/blinds I would definitely snap get this in. But when you're UTG+1 I just don't think you're ahead a ton here. I just fold here.
Villain is a bad 10nl player judging from his stats, your really think he cares if where UTG or button?
18% 3bet % is crazy huge and where actualy a favorite against that range:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.078% 44.66% 00.41% 256205534 2369220.00 { 66+, A5s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+ }
Hand 1: 54.922% 54.51% 00.41% 312677866 2369220.00 { 99 }

I agree with C9,6max this is a insta ship but i dont know about FR....

meh. ignore me, i just noticed the sample is only 50hands so the 18% 3bet is kinda meaningless unless you have actualy seen him 3bet and then go to showdown with A5,Q9 ect....
 
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Yeah, one of the reasons that I don't pay too much attention to the 3bet stat is because at $10NL there's so few regulars that I don't have enough history to make use of it. $25 seems to have a lot more.


I guess what crossed my mind her is that he may have seen this as a squeeze opportunity and he has the aggressive stats to be willing to do so. On the other hand, most players at this level have probably never heard of squeezing before, so it's most likely a bet for value/protection with AA/KK, or at least QQ/AK.
 
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tough spot for u, but as u make his 3bet range so easy for us perhaps a call its ok 2, u also can create a multiway pot where ur implied odds actually works. a fold its ok too, but plz, next time vary ur game a little :) GL
 
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Yeah, one of the reasons that I don't pay too much attention to the 3bet stat is because at $10NL there's so few regulars that I don't have enough history to make use of it. $25 seems to have a lot more.


I guess what crossed my mind her is that he may have seen this as a squeeze opportunity and he has the aggressive stats to be willing to do so. On the other hand, most players at this level have probably never heard of squeezing before, so it's most likely a bet for value/protection with AA/KK, or at least QQ/AK.


^ most people this loose at $10 NL's thought process doesn't go beyond "OMG I have AT and it's SOOTED! RAISE! What's UTG+1 mean?"
 
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